Yeah the tiger moves faster than a 1950s mbt I don’t understand how germans arent running and gunning with it.
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thats interesting. what book is this? i want to have a gander at what it has
Modern Land Combat, By David Miller and Christopher F. Foss.
I got the year it was printed wrong, it was 1987, but eve then the latest mark it mentions is the MK10, and it specifically calls out the TOG’s system.
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And in late BR they campers at strongest 2A7)))))
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I have another book from 1996 that ALSO mentions Thermal imagers on the Chieftain Mk5, but its more broad in how it states things, its the Jane’s Tank Recognition Guide by Christopher F. Foss.
The book has a cursed abrams on the frontpage and a Bradley ADATS on page one yes? 1987 makes a bit more sense, there may have been a chance that they thought the TOGS installation wouldn’t get a new mark designation as it was just happening as it was being printed
The book has a cursed abrams on the frontpage and a Bradley ADATS on page one yes?
IDK, i don’t have the paper cover, mine is just a blank hard cover.
i found it on internet archive so I was trying to verify
That is the right book, As for the other one, printed in 1996, it mentions that EVERY Frontline Cieftian, no matter the mark, had been fitted with MK1 TOG’s, Along with all of them being fitted with the ability to mount the dozer blade the MK3 in game has.
Also, that book is filled with so many whacky cool Light Tank prototype’s that could come to the game.
thats a cool book. I just cant be sure on its accuracy as I’ve just looked at a few different sites and they all seem to contest each other on this. Fighting vehicles dot com seems to have the most accurate information from what I gather, they also appear to reference the most variants giving themselves a bit higher likelihood of being right.
the site shows the mk10 as just a mk9 renamed after stillbrew was installed and the mk11 as when the TOGs is mounted instead of the searchlight.
About that, I’ve seen alot of sources say that in the case of the Mk5’s and 10s that received thermals, They just put them in the Spotlight housing, since there was a shortage of the actual proper housings for the TOG’s box, along with the fact the Spotlight houses were already a known tech, and the Russian’s wouldn’t suspect anything about them. Thus hiding the fact they had Thermals.
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that could have merit due to the Berlin Infantry Brigade vehicles all having to be painted to look identical, suddenly having a new box on the side would raise suspicion. However at the same time there’s a good chance that the Brigade never got TOGs chieftains, they left in 1994 so it was already known as the mk11 was being drawn up that it would happen so may well have not given the upgrade to them, more than likely an urban myth created later
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Well atleast there is mention of the Mk5 having a LRF out the gate.
Or atleast had the ability to fit it out of the factory.
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looks like only from the mk7 and up got the Totem L upgrade which was the Laser sighting.
This is bloody brilliant information, what book is this from?
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Just look at the bottom of the page
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I cant read apparently lmao.
