Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

This is super cool aswell, just came out yesterday: https://youtu.be/VumHUXmoUQs?si=k6gARN1J2eYavyuZ @Morvran

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i wish i had but when it comes to stuff like that i’m the last person to go to

is there any update on the CHARM 3 report? ive been asleep

New information has been given to the devs internally via Gunjob. its now just a waiting game. It will go one of 3 ways

  1. It gets accepted and actioned
  2. the devs make up a new excuse to reject the report
  3. the devs will accept the report and then nothing will happen.

The most likely option is option 3

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well atleast its not the worst news ever

I hope it’s number 2 (assuming they won’t accept it). We’re due another banger like “clear marketing lie”

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Yeah… probably

This would all be a lot easier if we were russia

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Anyway, heres some of the audio files from the Challenger 2 LDT. Maybe make a realistic crew voice mod: https://youtu.be/DQ0lSpoPpJQ?si=R7elJnL_tMEqsPsZ

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the freshly rejected report (Not enough Info)

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3bm42 can still easily go through the top of the mantlet as far as I’ve seen, + addition of a turret basket.

It is furhter up the chat, on how the spot where the two trunions pins which was empty before is noww filled.

That’s the next step BTW, we know for a fact they are gonna add, for some reason a turret basket which is ridiculous. But they may not go for the armour upgrades if it makes the CR2 not swiss cheese.
like last time xd

But where is their source to even add this? like they’ve just started changing so much without any proof as to why.
Much akin to the Fireflash on the Swift F7, it’s been proven to have been an incorrect, unanounced nor in the changelog change.
Which they’ve yet to revert.

For what DM53 or the damn Charm 3? ???


DM53…
It’s getting absurd.

Charm 3 report was already rejected, then re-accepted and its in some limbo right now i think

iirc its all internal now

I was letting Shini know the DM53 report had been nuked

Well, at least us Brit and German mains can be together in our pain

Obviously this impacts the Brit tree too as the CR3TD has DM53

Somehow…just putting this totally random thought out there. It’s an outlier and probably not got much to commend it.

I think if it were a Russian round with some magical ‘anti-Chobham’ capability - you probably wouldn’t need to do all that much to convince the devs to whack it into the game ASAP.

Call me cynical, but I’m just getting the distinct impression that there’s a bit of favouritism going on here. What’s the other word for it…bias?

Noooooooooooooooooooooo. Can’t possibly be so.

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the round, globally renowned for being effective against ERA xD quality…

Noticed the comment above, lol leopards gonna be the only ones at top tier without anti ERA, slowest Ace reload and fked trunnions xD

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since about january man it’s been pretty damn convient every addition has been severely lopsided.
LMURs, Terminators, SVSM , (lets not forget the naval top tier is stupidly OP as well) Su30 Premium which is massively under BR’d as well as Kh38s that have resided in game for longer than necessary.
As well as this no one seems to talk about the T80U reload buff, it’s a pretty nice change for the MBTs especially at 9.3 - 10.7

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@dotSHINI Is there a thread for the Leopard/DM53 that you are discussing the DM53 report in?

Since we are in a similar boat now, I’d like to take a look if it exists

Smin just forwarded my explanation of it with tests of dart and how i believe that L27, due to its break away tip, can infact penetrate the T80U assuming L27 can pen the T80U without K5 without its breakaway tip

Simple explanation is that the plates when being launched or away from the apfsds do different things but the only one that can damage the round itself is the co flying plate (one that flies with the apfsds) and likely would snap off the nose
the 2nd layer does not seem to have the co flying plate only counter flying which just deforms it at most but due to the use of DU and length of the round it likely is not affected too much

But the co flying plate is why usually penetrators like DM33 would fail as they would be broken at the nose and so would not have the ability to penetrate the rest of the hull

There is a source to this but i cba to post all the images

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Against 3BM40 which none of the top tier tanks use and even the 11.7 premiums are not using Mango.
So while yes it’s good the subsequent addition of the floating floor and no mobility improvements do not really change the game.