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no mention of CE
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Well i have a different doc i guess
Only has KE with the turret being 500mm with a stretch to 600mm
i wanted to post one but im scared of ending up in the news
Sauce for that doc?
if it is national archives it should be fine
It was what was used for the original Charm 3 has 700mm pen report no? I got it originally from here so
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maybe not
ur gonna end up in the news
It says the SR(L) 4026 requirement is for 500/800. As has been discussed to death already SR(L) 4026 =/= Challenger 2.
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I know, im just point it out.
ahhh must of missed this
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As in armoured lol
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The base CR2 is 11.7, and the 2F and TES are just off meta. Also apparently underperforming in terms of armor performance though I haven’t personally looked into it.
I agree about the BN being the worst 12.0, though.
For the record: ZTZ99A, T-90M, VT-4, Abrams, and possibly the Ariete AMV (I don’t have it yet) are all inferior to the Challenger 2E in my opinion.
It used to before the CR rework; but now they all got their hull armor fixed to a consistent value.
all the challanger 2 tanks armour is horrific man.
start from the top.
ZTZ99A/ WZ1001, ive got the latter.:
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Armour - CR2E arguably is worse due to the entire hull being weaker. only the turret cheeks are better.
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Mobility - the ZTZ99A is the fastest and one of the most mobile top tiers in game.
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FCS - believe the ZTZ99A has similar turret traverse and better gun handling (could be a bit off here)
Surivability - both are pretty poor but the ztz99a is marginally worse for a penning shot. -
Ammunition- ZTZ99A has access to more and better rounds the Wz1001 has a higher penetration due to the caliber of the gun.
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Reload - CR2 has a better reload for the first four rounds, then even with an expert crew i believe its only marginally faster. sits at about 7 seconds out of ready rack.
T-90M: Do not have it but still will commet based on its stats card.
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armour over all better armour on its entire frontal arc including functional ERA that works for kinetic and a full hull spall liner.
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mobility - arguably worse mobility over all but comparitively mobile going forward. Reverse puts it in a horrific spot.
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FCS - believe the T90M has better turret and gun traverse over all than CR2E and incredibly similar optics T90m having 4x - 12.0x and the CR2E having 2x - 10x
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ammunition - 3bm60 is arguably a better round as it has higher penetration values and angled pen.
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reload - same as ztz99A
Abrams: got most of them and nearly got the sep so go by M1A2
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armour - abrams armour while not accurate, is not bad armour in game, comparitive turret protection and frontal hull protection (LFP one taps both usually CR2E and Abrams) though CR2E sports marginally higher due to the spall liner.
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Mobility - the abrams sports a marginally higher HP/PT if I have the correct stats shown with 24.5 over 24 on the CR2, however it traverses faster and doesn’t lose as much speed.
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FCS - the abrams has far better turret and gun traverse similar optics with 3x - 10x over 2x - 12x marginally better on the CR2E but negligable overall.
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survivability - while the abrams has more modules inside it, it doesnt have all the ammo all over the tank, usually i survive more in my abrams than my CR2E however that is ancedotal and I cant rightfully say either or. both suck when u get penned.
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Ammunition - M829A2 , need I say more? technically the highest penning round out an L/44 cannon in game, second best over all pen for the common tanks (292 has obviously more pen)
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Reload - absolutely rofl stomps the CR2E for reload has over 30 rounds at an aced 5 seconds an epert 5.3 rather thanthe CR2E getting similar but for 4 rounds.
VT4 I wont comment on as ive not touched it yet but it seems good im currently going for it.
the arietes only drawback over the CR2E is its armour, its smaller, and less survivable due to the horrific modelling however it is still very mobile, and has DM53.
(the arietes do need rightfully buffed or lower in BR though)
The issue is, the “worst” top tier is by little margins, the CR2E solves the issue of mobility for the CR2 but doesnt solve the issue of incorrect armours, horrific suvivability and the round.
However id agree with the 2E is better than the ariete, and merkavas , possibly the VT4, but the T90M and abrams? nah
