Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

the crusader skin is still completely broken because they have locked rotation on it. i imagine its literally just a line of code or a button to allow players to rotate it again, and they haven’t done it yet so, because you cant rotate it, you end up with two black squares of composite rather than the texture they should have.

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they had a road map for it and didnt even bother with it xD

U know i think you spike about the roadmap earlier at one point already.

Please show me that roadmap because i dont remember a roadmap only a list of bugs/suggestions they wanna work trough if anything

let me go find it mate, @Morvran may have a better idea.

Im talking about when gaijin had it in the roadmap to fix it and then didnt bother.

thats what i am saying if you mean the official roadmap i do not remember that being a point at any point

It was probably this:

They fixed a few things and broke even more and have done nothing since

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If I remember right it was bundled in with it in the notification section of it, im looking through them now tryign to find where it is.
Maybe im wrong and got stuff mixed up, god knows theres enough going about

Yeah when that was announced it was round about the same time spring roadmap.

that one i remember . but like i said it is

and those have all been addressed in some way or form

if it was benedicial is another matter

The problem is 75% of the changes that came about from that dev thread were wrong and ahistorical changes that only nerfed the CR2 (all reported and acknowledged before the changes went live, but still havent been fixed). WIth MAJOR issues never even looked at. Im still waiting on them to actually give us the CR2 overhaul promised like 18 months ago

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i mean the promised leopard DM update isnt anywhere to see either

besides wasnt that the one u send?

Given the Leopard has the best survivablity in game and the CR2 has one of the worst. I think I know which should be the priority. But its not even armour im talking about. Its things like the fact the CR2s still only have a 4 round ready rack isntead of the 28 it should have

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nevermind last sentence, it promised the DM rework

Yes… except it didnt fix anything, only nerfed the CR2 with fake ahistorical changes

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leopards have armor holes in the turret which mg fire can go trough thats the main issue

2.3 tanks can kill a challanger 2 frontally… one of the most well armoured MBTs of both its time, and still modern day.

The leopard 2s while should get there upgrades as morvran said, there should be a priority.

And yes but what im saying is it was grouped in with the spring roadmap as both were released roughly around the same time. hence why as i said I got mixed up. Its not a big deal.

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The front plate is truly tragic any tank at that br can one shot you and not even relying on the lower plate

Just did a test and yes a Panzer IV can one shot the CR2…by shooting lower front plate or the driver port weakness.
It cant do that to Leopard 2A7, T-90M or T-80BVM and has a low chance of going through the turret ring of the M1…

This game man

it’s almost like the theatre entry standard is called standard for a reason.

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The issue is that 80% of the front of challenger 2 in the game is weak spots. upper front, lower front, roof and breach. meanwhile you face things with much smaller weak spots, meaning you actually have to aim for specific locations like driver viewports or tiny lower front plate shots while they can just snapshot you and get a kill. Compare Challenger 2 and its 80% frontal weak spot to the T-80 and its 30% frontal weak spot, and the difference is staggering. then just to top it off, while you have to actually aim, you also have the worst round in the game for pen and arguably post pen too, making the experience even worse.

Most everything in the game has an incredibly strong turret, meaning that because of the weak round, you cant really pen their turrets, but that’s the first thing you will see as a vehicle crests a hill, meaning majority of the time you cant even do anything to the people who you have to engage, apart from maybe get a lucky breach shot and hope that the round does enough to break it, though it usually doesn’t. if a hulled down leopard 2 or t-80 exposes its turret to shoot you, there ain’t much you can do against it, bar break its breach if you fire first. meanwhile, he can just shoot you anywhere bar turret cheeks and get an easy kill. its sad.

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