yep, stats that we arnt allowed to see we just need to trust gaijin they are always honest(i cant keep a straight face typing this part)
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fixed in .30
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Yeah
My source got back to me:
“The more recent renditions of L31(HESH) are considered “safe from strike”, meaning they are inert and will not be ignited by shrapnel/other effects that penetrate the turret”
Which means the only part of Chally ammo stowage, on any Chally tanks, that goes off should be the propellants.
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I think the armour values are implied. Given the way the report is worded, the armour values are based off of in game values for the L23A1 round
That said, L26 (Jericho) was in use in 1991, and that i’m aware of Armour Development for Challenger 2 was ongoing until 1994. My guess is they would’ve made it capable of defeating any NATO round available and all known Soviet/Russian rounds, and probably had an element of future proofing too.
The Haines manual mentioned in the report does list estimates for the penetration levels of Russian ammunition while the MoD was starting to look at replacing CR1
Edit: at work atm but I can send a photo of them when I’m home… though it might be the protection levels of the T-series tanks and I’m mis-remembering
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Ahh the third duplicate. This has been reported for sometime now and all these materials are already present on the report internally.
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Looks like reduced spalling after penetration is a game wide issue that affects all tanks, not just those with spall liners.
So any improvements seen with the challengers is this bug in effect and will likely be reversed.
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Current C2 ammunition propellant seems to be fully IM compliant:
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For anybody who needs more context, this is from AOP-39:
It saddens me to see that it was “acknowledged” SEVEN (7) months ago, and yet, nothing has been done and CR3 has been implemented with a 200mm thick mantlet too.
I don’t think they will be fixing this, at this point and sadly.
If Challenger 2 had its mantlet fixed, it would go from being one of the worst tanks, to one of the best, and it would actually become the best hull down tank instead of one of the worst too!
As of now, literally 1/3rd of the turret surface is a lethal weakspot.
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Could we use this with the footage from that documentary of a charge bin getting hit by a KE projectile and not detonating to bug report the ammo detonation chances?
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I’ve just realised that the not true to life era on the 2f TES OES is now 100% dead weight instead of 90% dead weight as their is no stock heat at that br so it protects you from nothing
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The best challengers are the ones without ERA
I suspect you’re right.
I imagine we’re going to get “We think we’re right and you’re wrong, tough shit” on the devblog response. :(
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I do not know, I am not aware if IM are modelled in game or not currently (unless the rounds are situated in a carousel…)
We need proof L16 or L16 uses Rowanite 318
Also I imagine the current high pressure propellant is what we use now.
To be fair, having looked at the material again, it is not clear that L18A1 uses Rowanite 318 which is IM compliant, or 316 which does not seem to be IM compliant.