Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

That diagram is correct, as it shows how you measure Stanag level in LAV case. 5 from the front and 4 from the rest. Sadly they think all Stanag are measured from the front of the vechicle, not like you would measure it from the front of the armour block if it is about the block.

Its comical that they use a STANAG measuring diagram from a vehicle that never mounted any types of ERA, nevermind ASPRO-HMT and only was reinforced with a mine plate and more RHA iirc since its entered service.

The diagram is correct in the angles by which STANAG is tested on a vehicle setting. But STANAG 4569 trials are conducted on individual panels, Not entire armor assemblies. I provided photographs, testing methodologies, company statements, and yet they wont accept that because their LAV diagram shows different.

It’s pathetic.

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Whoops. These BRAT tiles seem to have done their job ok.
M2 Bradley ODS-SA BRAT HERA tiles

Do we know if the -HMT tiles have a similar internal layout?

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We dont know the exact internals of ASPRO-HMT outside of it being “NERA” which means ERA & Composites, so its most likely a similar rough layout but much thicker. Alongside the ERA not causing the entire block to be used upon being hit, say if the block stops a RPG-7 warhead with only half the ERA, it wont detonate the entire block like on Relikt for example.

We know that ASPRO-H is based on the same concept and technologies as BRAT (so very likely the same sort of materials and layout) and ASPRO-HMT is an upgrade over the BRAT in terms of the reactive element.
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Yeah, I’ve seen @Gunjob taking this stance as well.

The issue is STANAG is a vehicle level qualification. The ~1990s document they quote for the testing criteria, is specifically talking about testing vehicles. It doesn’t mention testing individual armour components.

All of that ignores the fact that the ERA doesn’t even give the STANAG level 4 protection, nevermind level 5.
B32 penetrates the ASPRO-HMT.

State of the art NERA/ERA elements can’t stop 14.5mm AP bullets, but a few sacks of C4 Relict can apparently stop 120mm DU penetrators at 0 degrees.

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@Gunjob Will they further update the challenger’s model in the test server? Or on the official server? Currently, only one CR2 has a new model. Will all CR2 on the official server have a new model, including 3TD? Thank you so much!

Don’t know mate, we’ll have to wait and see.

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Thank you

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Can you check the Hull armour? looks different than i remember.

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I meant the Composites :p

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Coming along very nicely now. starting to actually look like the Chally 2.

I’d expect them to be working mainly on the base Challenger 2 model and then use that when “recreating” the 2F/TES/BN/2E and CR3TD

Trunnions pins are partially here
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The holes are still in the rotor walls, do are the giant holes for the pins locks
Protection provided by it does not seem to be here yet


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love the rotor

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Still very WIP then but it is coming along pretty well. Do remember they did state it will either come in the Major or in a seperate patch depending on if its finished in time, so it could be delayed till say sometime between this major and june.

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