Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

Everytime I hear/read the words “dust cover” my mind goes back, kicking and screaming, to SA80/L98 Weapons Handling lessons “And do up the Dust Cover”

god help us all, we’ve gone insane.

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Devil man please I beg not that video.

Sorry, but name obliges

now i’m hearing the lyrics for the devil went down to georgia.

My therapist and counsellors are gonna have the time of their lives next week

This is almost right but from the photos the shroud is flush with the hull and doesn’t stop at the mounting bar/bracket so it would look like this;

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To recap:

From front to back -
The first section is half thickness plate, with the shroud filling the airgap between it and the hull. A bolt passes through both, securing them in place.

The second and third section (Middle plate No.1 and No.2) is a full thickness metal plate. We know this has to be the case because ASPRO-HMT cannot be mounted onto a shroud (As seen by Warrior IFV’s install) and we have photos like this that show the side of the middle plates are solid double thickness.


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This would also make sense as the blocks as several tons heavy, and additional thickness would be required to support them while also adding protection to the fighting compartment.
The final piece of the plate is the aft section, which is noticably thinner and bares no weight on it.

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Ok, so who is writing FOI to UK gov hoping we get the answear to the eternal backplate debate?

I think i’m on the watchlist already so I don’t think I can.

Im not even from UK so im also out ;)

ffs just call an auto shop and see if a cr2 has come in with a flat tire, tell them to take photos.

Anyone got a shot of a naked TES with all the mountings visible?

Nope, best i can give you is 2G, so maybe the same backplate, not sure

Aye so the entire top of the baseplate has a shroud over it and extends all the way back:


But you can already mount the full width plate because that shoud is making up for the lost solid steel.
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In blue, is where your mounting brackets and bolt come from. In red, the shroud is attached to the bracket and makes up that missing space from the half width. This is effectively now an airgap.
The purple is your actual plate width for the front.

On the full thickness plates, both Red and Purple are combined into the solid plate. You still mount to blue, and the bolt goes the same distance, you’ve just replaced the airgap with solid steel

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa this damn picture again!!!

No deal… haha I need a TES, if the mounting bar is there in the same location I think the reasoning is sound that the plate is 40mm the whole way and the reason the front and rear plates appear to be the only thin ones is due to the way they need to be mounted.

The driver section needs to be further from the mud guard and the rear is bolted in a different way that permits it to be flush to the armour.

Well, then sadly i cant be of help. I have never seen yet TES/OES wit side plate removed, only with ECM, Blocks and slats removed

OO, another 12.7 on ENFORCER
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@Gunjob So effetively it goes:
For the front
STEEL PLATE 40MM > AIRGAP 40MM > MOUNTING BRACKET

For the middle sections
STEEL PLATE 80MM > MOUNTING BRACKET

For the rear section
AIRGAP > STEEL PLATE 40MM > MOUNTING BRACKET

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The rear section is much thinner, around 20 iirc

LOOK WHAT I FOUND
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And it is a MEGATRON (DT 22 AA) but im not sure in what confing, as MEG was aslo in 2G iirc
Yep it was aslo in 2G


And iirc the 2H added mine protection, so probably 2G
So this remain useless, at least we are sure that 2G had plate of the same thicness

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