Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

[DevilO6]

Ammo location

So the report is about hull, but we will look at the turret?
@Legwolf @Flame2512 @Fireball_2020 here are reponses for your efforts

[oppsijustkilledu-psn]

How disappointing they completely ignored the fact the blocks shouldn’t be modelled as one big ERA block.

[Flame2512]

@DevilO6

So the report is about hull, but we will look at the turret?

I passed them some information about ready rack size, so hopefully that gets implemented.

[_Froge]

So off-topic but I’ve been told the university of Cambridge received a lot of Vickers documentation after they stopped existing, so they might have information on the Vickers Mk.7 if anyone wants to look into it? Not sure if I’ll have the time…

Bae’s land division also has 2 reports on CLIP but they remain classified, sadly

[SwingfireOP]

Sigh.

What we all expected really.

The “protection may be reduced” is concerning.

Disappointing.

This seems appropriate:

[Hartsy1]

(if you have any more publicity available sources please send them) OHH OK I GUESS THE 30+ ALREADY SENT WASN’T ENOUGH TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFIED VEHICLE… PLEASE LET ME GO SOURCE MORE SEKRT DOCUMENTS XD gaijin wonders why people leak classified ***t yet when presented with cleat issues and information doesn’t act on it… A challenger 2 mantlet should not be being pen’d from a tiger 2s round, not just from a real life aspect but a gameplay balance aspect too, it’s simply stupid!

[oppsijustkilledu-psn]

How the internal of the ERA part of the side armour look

[Fireball_2020]

What? We’re getting a DM rework including ammo placement and mantlet armour.

[Flame2512]

@Hartsy1

A challenger 2 mantlet should not be being pen’d from a tiger 2s round, not just from a real life aspect but a gameplay balance aspect too, it’s simply stupid!

They’ve said they’ll rework the mantlet. So I guess we see what they do and go from there.

[Tachikaze1]

Yes alongside the side of the turret being increased per @Flame2512’s report

[Tristacomand]

A nice fork in the road. Make your choice.

[SPANISH_AVENGER]

The only possible “better” evidence is illegal to provide.

What options are left?

[Tachikaze1]

I dont think its fair to say such a thing.
there isnt much more evidence out there as the tank is still majorly classified and the information that is out there its questionable if gaijin would even bother looking at nevermind accepting over what they have internally and have been given externally.

[Mytho-GR1]

My guy they assume the NERA AND ERA sandwich on the side provides the same protection as 80s ERA what else is there to do

[oppsijustkilledu-psn]

just abit of extra clarification on the blocks. White being ASPRO and yellow the VARMA/CHOBHAM

[DevilO6]

Here is my take

[Development] Discussing reports related to the Challenger 2 MBT

I will hold my judgement untill the geometry and ammo will be revised. The smaller reports were done so thats good. The big reports are a mix. The turret armour and ammo will be revised, so thats good, ammunition gets ignored due to dispropotrions from formula and Dorchester 2H/2I is what i hope will be very quickly revisited. The report is about ammunition stored around the driver, the devs talk about turret but promise to look at ammo placement, we will see. There are 2 parts of this repor…

[Rileyy3437-live]

I think previously it was because other nations had stock HEAT. However now, theres no excuse really.

[warhead_beast]

@DevilO6

Backplate becomes aluminium

WHAT NOW?

[Tachikaze1]

The connecting plate for the ERA to the Hull is now going to be Aluminium instead of the composite? it is currently.

[warhead_beast]

I have a massive fuck of problem with the aluminum part