Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

[Fireball_2020]

What? We’re getting a DM rework including ammo placement and mantlet armour.

[Flame2512]

@Hartsy1

A challenger 2 mantlet should not be being pen’d from a tiger 2s round, not just from a real life aspect but a gameplay balance aspect too, it’s simply stupid!

They’ve said they’ll rework the mantlet. So I guess we see what they do and go from there.

[Tachikaze1]

Yes alongside the side of the turret being increased per @Flame2512’s report

[Tristacomand]

A nice fork in the road. Make your choice.

[SPANISH_AVENGER]

The only possible “better” evidence is illegal to provide.

What options are left?

[Tachikaze1]

I dont think its fair to say such a thing.
there isnt much more evidence out there as the tank is still majorly classified and the information that is out there its questionable if gaijin would even bother looking at nevermind accepting over what they have internally and have been given externally.

[Mytho-GR1]

My guy they assume the NERA AND ERA sandwich on the side provides the same protection as 80s ERA what else is there to do

[oppsijustkilledu]

just abit of extra clarification on the blocks. White being ASPRO and yellow the VARMA/CHOBHAM

[DevilO6]

Here is my take

[Development] Discussing reports related to the Challenger 2 MBT

I will hold my judgement untill the geometry and ammo will be revised. The smaller reports were done so thats good. The big reports are a mix. The turret armour and ammo will be revised, so thats good, ammunition gets ignored due to dispropotrions from formula and Dorchester 2H/2I is what i hope will be very quickly revisited. The report is about ammunition stored around the driver, the devs talk about turret but promise to look at ammo placement, we will see. There are 2 parts of this repor…

[Rileyy3437]

I think previously it was because other nations had stock HEAT. However now, theres no excuse really.

[warhead_beast]

@DevilO6

Backplate becomes aluminium

WHAT NOW?

[Tachikaze1]

The connecting plate for the ERA to the Hull is now going to be Aluminium instead of the composite? it is currently.

[warhead_beast]

I have a massive fuck of problem with the aluminum part

[DevilO6]

That is not the purpose of that plate, the backplate is a giant screen stretching up to the giant block at the bottom, and servs as an armour first, second as a mounting.

[zuadao]

well they will correct the model for the next major patch… its one of the things i think was really hurting the challenger.

for the rest, i cant believe the devs to be this ignorant of subjects like the gun mantlet so ill just say they are doing it on purpose. theres no other explanation why they choose to ignore certain aspects of bug reports and focus only on others.

[SlowHandClap]

@_Froge

So off-topic but I’ve been told the university of Cambridge received a lot of Vickers documentation after they stopped existing, so they might have information on the Vickers Mk.7 if anyone wants to look into it? Not sure if I’ll have the time…

Would they be in the university library?

[_Froge]

“a great deal of Vickers material is now held by the University of Cambridge, so you may wish to contact them directly.” is what I was told, no mention of where specifically.

[l2ulan]

I mean, it’s right there.
https://archivesearch.lib.cam.ac.uk/repositories/2/resources/13410

[SuTa_basuto]

we think
we decide
we dont think so

[Morvran]

Whilst what they’ve said is bad, what they haven’t said is also bad. Can’t help but get this feeling that their narrative is “we’ve fixed 90% of bug reports for the Chally 2 and here is why we can’t fix the last 10%”

Even though they’ve barely scratched the surface of all the bug reports so far.