and its a failiure, well that was to be expected, here comes a breakdown from me
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So from what ive read ill summarise
No Changes to L27A1 unless we can provide greater information
No changes to TES/OES ERA/NERA protection values
a “Refinement to the CR2 damage model” 
This includes the turret side armour aswell as mantlet
A change to the internal Damage model part of the above mentioned point which is mainly refering to positions of ammo.
Honestly overall this is a massive W, sure its not everything we had hoped for but we would be foolish to expect such things.
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TES
The total protection including ERA, backplate and tank side provide STANAG 5 so its fine
Backplate becomes aluminium, WOHO less armour
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No mention of the reports about the blocks being a combination of ERA and composite either
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L27A1
The way we calculate is different from what UK did, so no change, unless more sources.
Turret armour
No data on the shells so no change in that regard, geomety of armour will be changed, we will se how it will go
Ammo location
So the report is about hull, but we will look at the turret?
@Legwolf @Flame2512 @Fireball_2020 here are reponses for your efforts
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How disappointing they completely ignored the fact the blocks shouldn’t be modelled as one big ERA block.
I passed them some information about ready rack size, so hopefully that gets implemented.
So off-topic but I’ve been told the university of Cambridge received a lot of Vickers documentation after they stopped existing, so they might have information on the Vickers Mk.7 if anyone wants to look into it? Not sure if I’ll have the time…
Bae’s land division also has 2 reports on CLIP but they remain classified, sadly
Sigh.
What we all expected really.
The “protection may be reduced” is concerning.
Disappointing.
This seems appropriate:
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(if you have any more publicity available sources please send them) OHH OK I GUESS THE 30+ ALREADY SENT WASN’T ENOUGH TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFIED VEHICLE… PLEASE LET ME GO SOURCE MORE SEKRT DOCUMENTS XD gaijin wonders why people leak classified ***t yet when presented with cleat issues and information doesn’t act on it… A challenger 2 mantlet should not be being pen’d from a tiger 2s round, not just from a real life aspect but a gameplay balance aspect too, it’s simply stupid!
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What? We’re getting a DM rework including ammo placement and mantlet armour.
They’ve said they’ll rework the mantlet. So I guess we see what they do and go from there.
A nice fork in the road. Make your choice.
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The only possible “better” evidence is illegal to provide.
What options are left?
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I dont think its fair to say such a thing.
there isnt much more evidence out there as the tank is still majorly classified and the information that is out there its questionable if gaijin would even bother looking at nevermind accepting over what they have internally and have been given externally.
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My guy they assume the NERA AND ERA sandwich on the side provides the same protection as 80s ERA what else is there to do
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