Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

I can’t find my post about it on one of these threads where i posted both.

chally issues dovbleg when

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It’ll just be another shitpost like the abrams one was.

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I nearly replied to Stona’s one post on 13th Dec going to ask “hey look, I know you guys are probs on holiday… but when Chally 2 Devblog?”

I mean if we come at them with every single thing wrong with Chally 2, evidenced and well researched (like we’re trying to now) and then they say “nah nothing wrong with Chally” then it’ll not be a great reflection on them.

Of course, it’d be even worse if they promise a devblog and then don’t deliver the goods…

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Something that could be added for the future, i read that the charge bins can hold multiple ammounts of charges, because the HESH charges are smaller so more fit into one tube in the bin while the apfsds charge bag is bigger and only one fit into one tube in the bin

If memory serves 2 HESH charges can be stowed where 1 APFSDS charge might be stowed.

Yeah but we know what gaijin are like.

I made a report about the F5E having too low of an engine temp, providing them with multiple sources from various bodies that tested the engine IRL, and reported on its temps.

NASA did an independent test of the GE J85 as did a university on Iran, and both produced temps higher than what we have in game.

It was closed as ‘not a bug’ because reasons.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/XA4uTA29qiaR

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can but hope

besides, they are quite frankly out of their minds if they reject this many reports with decent sources.

next week at least

Very long shot, but does anyone have access to this?
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It is included in a citation on ECBA but I have no idea what the actual contents are.

ah balls, now it makes sense. i thought i stumbled on something like that.

Got section 26ed, which to be fair, seeing as it wouldn’t be sensible to say what our armour was and wasn’t resilient to

Again, to refer to my previous comments

I suspect in absence of anything better, we’re gonna have to go with increased resilience to fragmentation (be it artillery or spalling from shot) and maybe small arms.

I mean regardless spall is fragments, and the body armour provides full protection against that, your not asking for it to stop an apfsds XD it’s equivalent to a spall liners kevlar protection to the vital organs

I would not make a connection between wearing PPE inside a tank and the existence of spall liners. It’s not really a logic I can follow since it is common to wear PPE in all tank in all nations, having spall liners or not

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ehhhh, here’s the thing
If i was strictly speaking acting true to life I wouldn’t expect ECBA to stop hot fragments from a penetrating 125mm round from the side.

The other thing is the X-ray doesn’t discriminate based on where you’re hit. So a .50 hitting your toes might not be a instant death, but 5.56 to the vital organs might, if you catch what i’m saying

And i’m concerned Gaijin will somehow use that as an excuse, even though it’s ridiculous and unfair.

I suppose you’d need to ask whether tanks with Spall liners wear PPE to the effect that they can stop incoming small arms fire or not

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Are those the 50cal plate carriers?

RAC blokes are funny about what is a tank and what isn’t. I’m pretty sure they’d deny the AVRE was - especially one with Royal Engineers inside it.😄

But yeah, that was on Op. Motorman in 1972. The turret was to face backwards at all times, they covered the barrel with a tarp to disguise the fact it still had one, and no HESH ammunition was deployed with the Centurion - so it was just a bulldozer so far as any political sensitivities went.

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apart from anything else i feel like a HESH loaded Centurion could’ve been a liability. wasn’t Op Motorman for the installation of watchtowers?