Having more subtrees does not equal receiving more vehicles per update, in my opinion the correct place for both is as subtrees in a unified UK/Commonwealth TT.
Aware of the CANZAC TT concept but I don’t think it has enough equipment options to be sustained in terms of game longevity.
never said that, but it already speaks of the diversity and potential of vehicles you can get.
Rafale, su 30. t-90s more indian tanks etc.
adding both australia and canada fully to UK is just to much.
What and adding a vehicle that the chassis is already in the game isnt, if thats the case funny how theres no t-100 but the su-100y is in game
Counterpoint:
+potential greek subtree for israel (leopards)
+indonesian tanks for japan (leopards)
Not gonna include Strv122’s or leo 2-hull based stuff (e.g. ITPSV90) but you get the idea.
Errr- counterpoint to what? My point?
German mains are mad at those. And don’t want many of those in-game. If you even suggest that a Leo using nation gets a home not under German you get attacked.
Well, I’m a Canadian who has been asking for the 2A6M CAN to join the UK tree for a line-up. Because 9/10 times, when something not operated by the UK is asked for, it’s from players who are from the operator nation.
Check’s written by Gaijin, which cannot be cashed. They all talk, you know.
Look at our South-African Air Branch.
They had quite a lot of planes which they historically used, but the only thing we have is a damn JAS39C, which is limited with R-Darter, when technical compatibility already granted usage of both AIM-9M and R-Darter (SAAF never bought AIM-9M, and R-Darter was planned to be integrated, but SAAF decided to cancel it and pushed full forward to IRIS-T only, but no AIM-120 were allowed thanks to ‘Tech-Tree-Uniqueness’ which only used when artificially nerfing something.)
And also, about the Indian sub-tree, indian also used quite many vehicles, both eastern and western, but Gaijin decided to add the slightest effort, filled with C&P vehicles such as Osa/Strella.
Gaijin gave us two subtree nations in a row, for nothing but to shove a towel into British Main’s mouth.
Subtree nation which get no effort at all is literally null and void in both way, main nation, and subtree nation themselves.
I reckon Gaijin will not ever going to add Rafale or Su-30MKI unless both of those goes out of meta, because Copy & Paste is bad, and techtree uniqueness is important
so, if conditions keeps going like this, Even if we brits get EXTRA TWO SUB TREE such as AUS/CAN,
nothing will ever change.
Seems Gaijin’s conspiracy works quite well, I guess. because nearly everyone hates brits gets extra sub-tree because “you guys already have two”.
Because Gaijin will announce subtree as usual but will add nearly NOTHING.
if thing gone ideal, maybe getting extra subtree would be bit too much.
IF THINGS GONE IDEAL.
But I just wonder, when Canadian and Austrailians want to form a full deck with their own vehicles, and we brits have deepest historical ties with them, and WITH THIS SLOW SPEED THAT EVEN SLOWER THAN REAL SNAIL, with playerbases which generally disagreeing with every c&p addition
I don’t think british gets extra two sub-tree cannot be serious problem, thanks to lazy gaijin.
Adding Australian & Canadian equipment reduces “diversity” as it adds western-style equipment rather than the eastern equipment added via India.
In contrast, Germany has potential access to a wide variety of eastern equipment via the DDR.
DDR still was germany and is united as one country now and is not relevant for modern vehicles.
Australia& canada never were britain.
That comparison realy doesnt matter and isnt similar
The situation is not exactly the same, but absolutely is similar.
The colonies that became Australia and Canada were founded by Britain and were governed directly until the mid-20th century, including after their establishment as Dominions and later as Commonwealth realms. Full Canadian independence was established under the Canada Act 1982, while full Australian independence was established under the Australia Act 1986 (honourable mention; New Zealand with the Constitution Amendment Act 1973).
You are arguing in bad faith.
australia and canada are independent countries since a long time, you could argue that you could add all vehicles in UK until those countries gained their independence be added to the UK.
But modern vehicles have absolutly no relation anymore, well since the 80s, so all vehicles before 1982 could be added and 1986 for australia
so what about the vilkas? or the tam? or the t-72m1?
That’s actually hilarious, because both countries were British colonies (and thus British citizens) at one point. Now, even after independence we both still have the Crown as our Head of State.
When is this a valid justification?
Last I checked the T14, M22, and T18E2 were all built at British request, to British specifications, with British money, and sent to the British but are all solely in the US tree. The M22 (Locust I) even saw combat solely with the British, yet, no representation.
Typical “Big 3” double standards again.
The ironic thing is, when Gaijin added the Indian T-90 both British and Soviet mains were saying it shouldn’t be in the British tree.
I will never not upvote this.
Gee, I wonder what connection germany could have with TAM
And almost as if there was a connection with T-72M1 aswell
Not sure what it could be though
T72 is german ddr.
Vilkas german export, same with tam developed together with germany.
Not sure whats hard about that
Germany has no vehicles they didnt own, didnt develop or arent part of their subtree switzerland.
Your “gotcha” moment is a poor attempt
Thats not double standards.
If you dont fight for your own vehicles. Thats a you problem.
I am all for a nation getting all their vehicles they were part in and those of the official subtrees.
Which canada and auszralia just are not.
Oi, mate, you never seriously noticed? /j
Ram II need to be american vehicle because the chassis was based on of M3 Grant tank which is american tank.
Class 3(P) need to be german vehicle because a German company developed it, even though it is South African vehicle
C2A1 MEXAS need to be a German vehicle because Rheinmetall developed it, even though it is a Canadian vehicle
Leopard2 A4M CAN need to be a German vehicle and need to be painted with a German anime-ish Girl because Rheinmetall developed it, even though it is a Canadian vehicle
because Canada is not officialy being sub-tree of the UK, so it is Gaijin’s right to rip those vehicles left and right, whatever they want.
M1A1 AIM need to be american vehicle because General Dynamics sold it, even though it is Aussie vehicle.
Just like how T14, M22, T18E2 or P-51 Mustang need to be american vehicle because American companies or Arsenal developed it. (We still don’t have any kind of Merlin variant of Mustang)
So, Vicker MBT Mk.7 need to be german tank because the project is based on the Leopard hull, and British Army never used it. British just did nothing but shove a silly universal turret on the Leopard.
And Chally 2 130mm needs to be a German tank because the project is based on german 130mm gun plan, and the British Army never used it. British just did nothing but loan silly chally 2 chassis.
it is not double standard, it is how War Thunder literally works’ /s
British are not allowed to get any vehicles in any circumstances because ‘copy paste is bad, and stealing vehicles is not good for game health.’
Well, when we fought for our own vehicles, all we heard was
-it is german based project
-it is american bulit vehicle
-UK don’t need any more extra russian copy paste slop from India, so Su-30MKI need to be russian vehicle.
-Copy-paste is bad, so no. If you get Shermans and such, who would play American Tree?
I don’t think this is our problem.
or maybe because South Africa rejected the Class 3 in favor of Rookait, therefore it falls within the vehicles tested and not entered into service
(but then you have the sweden t-80U, so who know what gaijin thinks)
Maybe “anti-playerbase” /j
Demagogue between players and make everyone fight each other.
