Everybody with a minimum of experience knows this, when doing deflection shots on soviet planes always try to go for the main body, not wings.
This “bug” is so specific (ONLY best German ammo AND ONLY on WWII russian planes) that it is not even funny to comment about bussian rias.
Known for ages, Gaijin always refused to fix it or even comment it.
I never wrote it never fuses, I VERY DELIBERATELY STATED THAT IT EXPLODES WHEN IT HITS “SOME PART OR A MODULE” and that’s the main problem with your reading comprehension.
FOR THE LOVE OF SNAIL, READ ALL MY PREVIOUS POSTS FIRST BEFORE RESPONDING. AND THEN TEST IT FOR YOURSELF.
Caps lock to make it easier for you to notice and read.
You havent shown if they fuse on other aircraft, you havent shown me anything stating that theres no 0,1 mm fuse on them.
Sorry my bad, thought zero damage was in meaning to basically whole aircraft.
Literally 90% of my deaths in soviet aircraft were from wings breaking from getting shot or tail getting off, I have survived worse in italian Bf109.
I think you are missing his point, you can die, it is the probability of the shell exploding that is much lower. It goes straight through all non-structural surfaces that are specifically what that kind of shell is supposed to rip apart.
It works vs engines, plates, spars, tanks etc. Net result is that those planes are much more survivable vs planes using M-geschoss.
Note, ONLY that German shell and ONLY on those soviet planes, so incidentally specific…
Test it for yourself, before responding…
Seriously, run the game, hop into protection analysis and SEE FOR YOURSELF.
0,1mm fuse works. Mk108 f.e. has 0,001mm fuse or something like that even.
M-geschoss has 0,4mm fuse, which can be CLEARLY SEEN in protection analysis when looking at shell data.
MG131 has 0.3mm fuse or something along these lines.
I won’t be making 100 screenshots, since all of the data is available in game.
Seen it now, but the fuse does exist, and until the fuse doesnt go off, the round doesnt go off.
When the fuse works yes.
Can you show it vs other planes?
I know for fact most Yaks are made of light wood material, while some La seriee have more reinforced and better material.
I currently cant run the game.
Before the buff to damage on autocannons german guns literally seemed easiest to kill with. Shvaks and B-20s, coupled with M4 were doing no damage.
Also 30mm Japanese HEF. 12.7mm Breda HEF. And MG131 “IAI” in HEIT belt (it’s funny it’s HEIT belt made of “IAI” bullets, oh well).
Anything with some “custom fuse sensitivity”.
Of course German and Italian planes are the most affected.
LOL.
Yak aircraft skin is not made of wood, suede or silk.
It’s made of alluminium.
Also M-geschoss fuses 100% reliably vs all fabric-covered biplanes we have in game. Maybe with exception of some Soviet flying wonders.
Also EVERY other 20mm HE fuses just fine vs literally everything. Only M-geschoss has such issues. How surprising.
THere’s 0 reasons for M-geschoss and MG131 IAI, Breda HEF and Japanese 30mm to have less sensitive fuses.
Its not entirely wood or alluminium, for example tail of Yak is made from plywood, wings are made from
wood.
Do you SERIOUSLY think that laminated wood (that’s a hard material, trust me) tough enough to be an important part of a fighter plane with 1000+HP engine capable of going over 600km/h is so soft and cuddly it won’t make a shell explode?
How so?
Also explain this:
There’s 1 other plane, that will not make M-geschoss fuse, that’s not Soviet, and almost nobody flies it - Mosquito.
The thing is - there’s literally 0 data indicating that it would NOT fuse M-geschoss.
Fabric covered Hurricane:
0.1 mm thick wood? that is what the game reports, very convenient wood I would say
Generally, the wood argument is invalid, since there’s 0 reason to not fuse anyway.
We can just set P-47 aircraft Skin to 0,2mm of aluminium, since aluminium is way softer than steel and be done with it too.
The problem is not “wood”, it’s that German fuse is set to 0,4mm of steel, while aircraft skin is set to 0,1 or 0,2mm.
plywood*
They all used plywood. La series used better material.
It used delta wood.
What is this? Seriously,is this some historical document? Some expert analysis? Did they talk like that during WW2? Tell me?
Or is that some random dude making some random statement?
Why Soviet, British, Japanese Swedish, American and French 20mm fuses have 0 issues when exploding while striking Soviet aircraft?
Do you realise MK108 explodes every damn time vs Yak?
Do you realise load-bearing (since Yaks are also semi-monocoque) plywood is way harder and tougher than fabric covering the frame? And I was aiming at the fabric. Gaijin didn’t even bother to modek the frame, since 20mm shells in this game explode reliably anyway…
…unless they are post 2019 M-geschoss.
Also Yak-3 structure is generally not made of anything soft. Plywood on hard wooden supports is tough. If it wasn’t - your Yak would fall apart.
I have found some biplanes that do not make M-geschoss explode, success!
Oh wait, they are Soviet.
Luckily no problem for other nations’ 20mm:
To sum it up - M-geschoss, Breda 12,7, 30mm HEF, MG131 IAI fail to explode vs plywood aircraft skin.
IMO this is an intended “bug”.
Of course He-162 “benefits” but only on super-rare occasions when it’s getting lit up by Italians.
Which doesn’t happen too often.
There’s 0 reason for the mentioned shells to NOT fuse on plywood skin, which is pretty tough material. There’s also 0 reason for the mentioned shells to have fuse sensitivity set to different value than every other MG and 20mm HE in game. There’s 0 data indicating these fuses were notoriously unreliable compared to competition.
plywood btw.
I will run tests once home. Theres kinda same topic on IL2Shturmovik forum and it describes plywood for being a good material that could take a punch.
I know Mosquito is made of wood, thank you for your insight. The thing is, it seems to be all set up so Soviet aircraft get additional edge vs German fighters.
