Basically the statement that closes the discussion as far as I’m concerned.
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Honestly they just play very different to me. I play the VK like a light tank, while the Panther D is way more survivable. In fact, I’ve started to take up the VK in higher lineups to use it as an ersatz light tank, because it has the speed for it.
Both are very good tanks, but I think you’re underselling how different they play because of their differences.
The D has more sluggish acceleration I think.
Yes, both tanks have identical engines and near identical transmissions (the VK 30.02 (M) can’t neutral steer, but other than that their transmissions are identical).
The only difference is that the VK 30.02 weights 9.8 tons less cough cough (which is inaccurate) cough, giving it 18.57 hp/ton compared to 14.51 on the Panther D.
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That wasn’t the initial point
Eh, I’d say it’s still superior to any Panther in most respects (excluding Panther II), but not enough to warrant a higher BR than it currently has.
Maybe 6.3, but that’d be redundant if you ask me.
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Maybe. What your point reminds me of, from a German perspective, is the Tiger Porsche Befehlswagen. I think it’s a bit better than the Tiger H1 and a bit worse than the Tiger E. But of course separating the two production Tigers by more than 0.3 makes no sense and you have no intermediate BR in between where to place the Befehlswagen. So you compromise.
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Let’s check “Panther is not OP” muh list.
Muh №1 Bad reverse: check.
Muh №2 Thin sides: both no good. Not check
Muh №3 Low damage: APHE vs AP/APDS means no check.
Muh №4 Slow turret traverse: not check.
Results: Cent Mk.1 is not superior.
I have no clue what this is supposed to mean but I appreciate it nontheless
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My comparison of Cent Mk1 and panther G.
Lol, imagine nerfing Britain for having one actual decent tank
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Anyone would think there as popular as wyverns or xp50’s enetering the battle field in swarms
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God said that the centurion shall sliver. Thats how it feels playing it crawling around in lowest depths of the battle field
This is player error and not game design error.
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It could certainly be just fine at 6.3. there’s no reason it shouldn’t go up. However, there’s no reason either it should go up. It’s not a dominant vehicle that others at the BR struggle to combat (T34, Jagdtiger). Neither is it demonstrably undertiered compared to vehicles of comparable design, configuration, and performance (Firefly, M36).
So it’d be equally good and balanced at 6.0 or 6.3. It’s already 6.0, so if it ain’t broke don’t fix it, keep it 6.0.
And for people who don’t think it’d be good at 6.3, I advise learning to use the APDS- that thing works wonders after the learning curve. Few vehicles are safe even at max uptier.
Plenty of reason if you actually play it and have line built around with 6 as max.Changing BR is one of the prime issues for many and its a shame people have such a trivial attitude to it.moving BR is of particular interest around 6-7 BR as it is the ugly mix of WW2 and cold war and an area where many players simply stop climbing and playing any higher.its a sensitive area.
It gets pen in the face by rank 3 t34’s, lucky it has a reverse as its no good going forward. As for APDS only thing it can do in head on is knock 1 crew out at a time.
You have had 42 matchies with it, your comment sorry but nothing personal is just utter scutter and sounds like your humming and R’ing
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Good point. Against sloped armor, a lot of times shell just breaches the armor and ricochet with no or few parts of the shell getting inside the armor.
I would say in more than 70% of cases, APHE wouldn’t detonate inside a vehicle,
either due to fuze failing, the shell breaking up or the round simply not entering the vehicle.
I think, if the damage from rounds was heavily reduced while the requirments for destroying a tank were changed, it would create a lot more balance between vehicles.
In RL, gun penetration was way more important than the damage it inflicted on the vehicle, while in WT it’s often better to take the shell that can destroy a target in one shot instead of a round that makes it more likely to penetrate but only damages or disables a vehicle.
I think the lower damage of the solid shot is made up by the fact that the Cent has a good reverse gear, allowing to manuver into a position that allows firing more often, as well as the fact that it has a better RoF.
I always considered the Cent the better vehicle but I think there’s little point raising it to 6.3.
The inside of the tank used to splinter if there was no penetration