APHE was also prone to detonation in the breach back in the early days and destroy the whole tank from with in
Stop this please for the love of God. The bad reverse is mostly the Cromwell hull. People somehow forget the panthers are worse, the Russian mbt are worse. The centurions are good at reversing, chieftains, chally all reverse well.
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The centurion reversing is no better than your family car, its only first gear, while eveything else goes faster forward
Compared to contemporary vehicles it has generally been good.
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It wont be winning any speed trials going forward
Basically the statement that closes the discussion as far as I’m concerned.
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Honestly they just play very different to me. I play the VK like a light tank, while the Panther D is way more survivable. In fact, I’ve started to take up the VK in higher lineups to use it as an ersatz light tank, because it has the speed for it.
Both are very good tanks, but I think you’re underselling how different they play because of their differences.
The D has more sluggish acceleration I think.
Yes, both tanks have identical engines and near identical transmissions (the VK 30.02 (M) can’t neutral steer, but other than that their transmissions are identical).
The only difference is that the VK 30.02 weights 9.8 tons less cough cough (which is inaccurate) cough, giving it 18.57 hp/ton compared to 14.51 on the Panther D.
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That wasn’t the initial point
Eh, I’d say it’s still superior to any Panther in most respects (excluding Panther II), but not enough to warrant a higher BR than it currently has.
Maybe 6.3, but that’d be redundant if you ask me.
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Maybe. What your point reminds me of, from a German perspective, is the Tiger Porsche Befehlswagen. I think it’s a bit better than the Tiger H1 and a bit worse than the Tiger E. But of course separating the two production Tigers by more than 0.3 makes no sense and you have no intermediate BR in between where to place the Befehlswagen. So you compromise.
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Let’s check “Panther is not OP” muh list.
Muh №1 Bad reverse: check.
Muh №2 Thin sides: both no good. Not check
Muh №3 Low damage: APHE vs AP/APDS means no check.
Muh №4 Slow turret traverse: not check.
Results: Cent Mk.1 is not superior.
I have no clue what this is supposed to mean but I appreciate it nontheless
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My comparison of Cent Mk1 and panther G.
Lol, imagine nerfing Britain for having one actual decent tank
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Anyone would think there as popular as wyverns or xp50’s enetering the battle field in swarms
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God said that the centurion shall sliver. Thats how it feels playing it crawling around in lowest depths of the battle field
This is player error and not game design error.
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It could certainly be just fine at 6.3. there’s no reason it shouldn’t go up. However, there’s no reason either it should go up. It’s not a dominant vehicle that others at the BR struggle to combat (T34, Jagdtiger). Neither is it demonstrably undertiered compared to vehicles of comparable design, configuration, and performance (Firefly, M36).
So it’d be equally good and balanced at 6.0 or 6.3. It’s already 6.0, so if it ain’t broke don’t fix it, keep it 6.0.
And for people who don’t think it’d be good at 6.3, I advise learning to use the APDS- that thing works wonders after the learning curve. Few vehicles are safe even at max uptier.