List me any Russian veichle with Italian flag in the Italian TT.
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2S1, BTR-80A, T-72M and some helos, though it is important to mention that these are Soviet, not Russian.
That is just… blatantly false…
thats all hungarian vehicles not italien
They’re in the Italian tree, hence why I mentioned them.
But yes, I did slightly misread what user Il_Signor_Regio said, so that is my bad.
Loool I knew I would get responses like this… ITALY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RUSSIAN VEHICLES IN THEIR TREE AND SHOULDN’T HAVE THEM, IT’S CALLED ITALY, NOT HUNGARY, AND ITALY AND HUNGARY HAVE NO CONNECTIONS TO EACH OTHER, HUNGARY SHOULDN’T EVEN BE IN ITALY.
The Centauro 120 has vastly more merit and reason to be in the Russian tech tre, since it was actually tested by them, than any of the Russian vehicles do in the ITALIAN TECH TREE.
Butthurt Italy mains trying (and failing) to find a good reason for why they have Russian vehicles, but why others shouldn’t have theirs lmaooo
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alot of us dont want the soviet stuff in italy most people would have probably preffered the spain as that is western equipment and not eastern
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That’s just an unreasonable response.
Whether Hungary should or shouldn’t be part of the Italian tree is completely besides the point.
As we speak it is part of Italy and that’s that. There is no changing it now. And because Hungary is now part of the Italian tree this means that Soviet vehicles used by Hungary are found in Italy too.
This means that Hungarian service vehicles have more credibility to be added to Italy than Italian trial vehicles do being added to USSR tree.
We got dealt a shit hand, now let’s make the best of it.
You want Centauro I on your tt? Ok, and give to italian tt the T-34, T-26, BT-5, BM-13 and T-60 captured during Operation Barbatossa.
I agree that Hungary Is a downgrade to Italy and I would love to see those veichle removed from the Italian TT since they have 0 to’ do with Italy. But at the same time, I fully want Russian veichle used by Italy (T34/76, KV1, BM13, BT7, BT5, T26, T60 ecc) .
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honestly looks like a bad trade to me
It Is not a “trade”, they were used by Italy and they fit in the rule to’ be implemented into the Italian TT. While this Centauro was never put into service
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It isn’t a real trade, it is just balancing. And also the T-90 for UK (not India) and for USA.
Other nations can have tanks which USSR is most described by: T-72s, T-80U (best production soviet MBT), exported T-90S (the face of Russia), Mi28A, another force you can use to describe USSR/Russian heli airforce by.
But when it comes to a singular suggestion to add Centauro, its a big no.
Russia tested 105, 125mm Centauros, might have tested even 120, and of all 125mm/120mm one would be a good addition, if needed documentation is found.
Russia even tested Freccia.
Russia was testing these to buy if everything went well (italian engines are bad tho so that didnt happen), just as Sweden was testing T-80U in competition, and guess which is squad vehicle now.
You can clearly see bias in people’s way of thinking.
Theres not a single light tank USSR/Russia has with tank’s armarment you can put as high as even 11.3 BR.
Only thing you can really place there is either Centauro 125 or BMPTs.
We have many soviet tanks going into other TT, german tanks found in italian TT, Israeli tanks in USA TT, american tanks in several TTs, but suddenly one addition of Centauro into other TT would be too much, would take something unique from Italy (obviously italian helis, Ariete, IFVs and other Centauros stop existing right away)
Not suggesting this to be squadron, another Squadron would be horrible for everyone, suggesting this to be premium when rank 8 is introduced/ TT
Would listen closely to any suggestion on implementing any othwr vehicle instead of Centauro, some from post-USSR country or post-Warsaw pact country.
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The double standard is quite real when it involves the USSR.
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Comparing the USSR to Sweden is completely wrong, Sweden has very few vehicles that it could possibly get, therefore it needs to get tested/ captured vehicles in order to remain any semblance of competitiveness.
Meanwhile russia on the other hand has hundreds of vehicles available at the top ranks alone, it does not need vehciles copies over from other nations when it quite easily has domestic altlernitives, maybe if gaijin didnt make high teir russia a P2W qet dream there would be some vehicles left to use for SQV
I would also like to add most people didnt want a T-80U for sweden, most people didnt want a T-90S for UK. The T-72s were in service with the countries they are in, therefore they deserve to be there and the Leo 2s also are spread across several trees, the apaches are the top teir helicopter for half of the nations in WT, its not just russia that has to share thier toys
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Tell me which light tank with tank’s armarment Russia or any USSR related country has, which could be put at 11.3-11.7 BR range then
USSR lacks in post cold war light tanks design just as much as Sweden lacks in other areas.
That only backs up my claim, giving Centauro to USSR wouldnt be some unique practise.
Whilst im not an expert on the matter the BMPT immediately comes to mind, another one is a Franco-russian AFV that was being developed and was basically a wheeled 2S38 but was abandoned after ukraine and left with russia
The in difference is that italy is a minor nation and the centauro is one of its limited unique vehicles, meanwhile russia has tons of objects that it can get at similar BRs, plus doesnt russia alread have a top tier light tank 2S25M or something?
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Hows a wheeled version of 2S38 is gonna be 11.3-11.7
Not a top tier.
Again, what 11.3-11.7 light tank with tank’s armarment could be there.
Russia has no limited unique vehicles, except of few BMPS and Spruts, T-64, thats all, Kamovs helis.
Italy still has italian helis, Ariete, KF-41, Freccias, Centauros.
How about this?
Thats litteraly from a 5 second google search
The 2S38 ia increadibly uptierable, plus its a great AA for helis and close range aircraft, plus the wheeled chassis would give it far more speed and agility than the 2S38
Lets not also forget russia has the Best 11.7 SPAA by far alongside arguably the best helis and tanks
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