considering its still gaijin, bare minimum might be the best we can expect
Very good acceleration+R-27ERs.
It can’t go down without decompression, since the best SARH missiles shouldn’t be facing 11.3s.
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- one of best RWRs + one of best radars (same as 29SMT for both)
and just a reminder. Things like the Phantom FGR2, Mig-23MLA, F4EJ Kai, F-10S ASA, Viggen D, Kfir C7 and plenty of others have to fight these 2 aircraft and its painful. They need to move up as well
Another pro-compression thread, great
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F-4E vs F-16 💀
I have no problems killing the f16a in my f4e tbh, the aim9L is very easy to flare, and the f4e has a larger strike range.
Eh, 2 r27ERs that are easily defeated by either using the ground or doing some basic cold, notch, and chaffing. They are the best SARH in game, but why force an aircraft with 4 non ARH missiles against 12.7.
The main desire is decompression though, id rather see that than any aircraft moved down in BR
Won’t argue that it should beat most 12.0s. so long as they don’t have aim9ms or r73s or any missile capable of 10km+
With a strike range of about 2.5 kilometers anyone with a brain can just joust the f16a safely if they have an ET or any radar missiles available from 11.3 onward.
But I’d prefer decompression over any lowering of BR.
I don’t understand you, how does the R27ET make an aircraft comparable?
The r27et has a great head on range and makes whatever aircraft its on have an advantage over the f16a.
Just like any radar missiles it gives every other aircraft a range advantage over the f16a.
like what aircraft? Also, do you mean R-27ER? R-27ET is an IR missile.
ooh yikes, and i thought i had it rough with the f4f and mig29G.
Yes I mean ET. The j band slaving on the ET makes it an incredible long range missile. My longest kill with it is 50km in a head on.
And any aircraft that carries it up to 13.3 because my proposal is to put the f16a to 12.3 if they don’t decompress the BRs in the upcoming update.
The point I am making is that all radar missiles AND the ET being an outlier in the IR missiles world are capable of killing you from 10km+ at all altitudes in a head on. Which the f16a is incredibly lacking in the head on arsenal department. Which seems to be where most matches are won since dogfights are incredibly rare. As I’m sure you admit, within the first 5 minutes of an engagement the outcome becomes pretty clear - whatever side had more missiles connect in the original clash (head to head) wins 90% of the time.
Ok but then you say:
which confuses me
either way I don’t think the R27ET is as strong as you say or that the F-16A needs to be 12.3 for any reason just because the game is compressed
I’m sorry lol
I figured (sorry, it’s just too good of a setup to ignore, definitely don’t mean it 🤣)
It really is incredible, it’s my favorite missile in game because of no radiation signature and incredible versatility with a great seeker head
I don’t understand still though, how does R-27ET utilize radar here?
Ah, so the missile itself does not, but you can slave it to J band or any band actually. But it allows you to select and launch at targets well beyond standard lock range without giving any radar signature.
You can basically use the ET as a psuedo radar missiles with no warning. It’s pretty easy to defeat if you know it’s happening, the problem is most don’t went you shoot it at f15es in space that are only using chaff.
The old fashioned way XD
Sounds like skill issue.
WTF is a 11.3 gonna do against that smoothbrain?