Then don’t call it Ground battles. That’s false advertising. Call it Combined Arms Realistic and Combined Arms Simulator. Don’t lie to me and promise a tank game and then proceed to make it ARB/ASB
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It’s not, you just didn’t bother to read the description or get informations what the game is about from other sources.
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“Read the description”
Yeah, I did. That’s not ground battles, that’s combined arms. Doesn’t change the fact that majority of us here want a Tanks Only mode. Sure, I play CAS, but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t enjoy grinding my tanks without having 3,000kgs dropped on me at 4.0
I understand that the suggestion to abandon the central premise and selling point of something is a bizarre business strategy. It’d be very strange to see PETA get into the slaughterhouse business.
It’s really no different with WT: the suggestion that Gaijin could/would convert RB GFs into TO and that’d just be warmly received is…strange. Players who went into RB GFs for the mode as-is would be ‘perturbed’ by such a change to put it mildly.
That’s all I ever said, which is why your response was so peculiar to me. You don’t agree with that?
As for the rest, you really went off into the weeds:
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Yeah…I never said any of that. Please do not falsely attribute such things to me, as I did not say them.
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let’s use you as example, you have over 70k matches in your record, ALL low tier matches with no matches past rank V…and with nearly no premium vehicles in your account[/quote]
I guess you’re looking at someone else’s profile, as that’s not me. To correct you:
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I have thousands and thousands of matches played, well into the higher tiers (5.X+ is by no means ‘low tier’)–including dozens of rank V vehicles and thousands of plays with those alone
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I possess a ton of the available premium vehicles, though I’ll acknowledge that a large portion of these were ‘acquired’ rather than purchased (nothing wrong with doing events, tasks and WBs!)
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I have had a premium account for years now
All in all, your incorrect framing of what my hangar looks like and what I’ve done only undercuts your credibility…much of this is wholly public info. Either you are misinformed or you knowingly posted wrong info and each destroys your credibility.
As with my earlier comment, what you’ve said here reflects more upon you than it ever does upon me.
You are the one pushing an elitist framing that paying money makes one ‘more’ of a player than others…not I. That doesn’t work in F2P games and it certainly doesn’t work against players who have also supported the game as I have.
Playing the game routinely and tossing money to them often enough =/= freeloading, lol
People who simply play the game without purchasing anything are players as much as the folks that max out their parents’ credit cards–that’s how F2P game keep functional and maintain populations.
You’re calling a whole swath of the your fellow players “freeloaders” but I am dividing people? C’mon man…this isn’t comedy night.
Playing against the people the match maker puts one against is neither sealclubbing nor trying to feel strong. MM is done based upon the vehicles of your lineup, not the players involved–you ought to know that.
I appreciate this humor, but again you’re wrong: I advocate for balance, not any favoritism for CAS or anything else. That you feel such a moderate stance favors aircraft is commentary in itself.
Opposing anti-aircraft bias and rigging the game against aircraft =/= a pro-CAS stance, it’s just balance.
I’m not sure how/why you’d think I ‘fear’ TO when I’ve tried to help it toward implementation…I was the one who explained how the idea could be advanced (with a proposal and the ‘trigger-queue’ idea)
My skill is above average; I don’t have any real issues with dying to aircraft, in spite of plenty of time at ranges like 5.7-7.X where everything from P-47s to A2Ds reside.
I’m not the professional eSports guys, but I am clearly outpacing some as I evade aircraft well enough.
You ought to recant your original post…it was wholly out of turn.
At least you are honest enough to recognise that Tanks Only would be the best thing for the game, but it won’t happen because of people who rely on hiding in the sky to get free eliminations.
That that fairy tale is still being told doesn’t mean it is accepted…among the community, that line is actually something of a joke.
Tell us…explain the logic if you would: most people come to a CA game to not play CA? Really?
C’mon…that’s about as convincing as saying you buy the fold-out magazines ‘for the articles’ and you know it.
While it’s is easier to claim that TO is being suppressed by some grand conspiracy by Gaijin, the Illuminati or Auric Goldfinger, the harsh reality is that TO has been neglected–and by its own supporters too.
TO would actually have a decent chance at implementation if someone bothered to press Gaijin with the ‘trigger queue’ idea and a sober proposal about it…and yet no one has.
The trigger queue concept offers the same sort of mechanism as the night battles toggle…while not a ‘mode’ per se, it’s better than nothing at all.
TO supporters could help the TO cause by getting serious about it…stop complaining about dying to aircraft and start pressing for the the TQ approach to TO.
People play Ground Battles to grind their tanks, simple as. People play Ground Battles to play with tanks. I assure you, not everyone is coming into Ground Battles to play with their planes. Better yet, why is Ground Battles the only mode where you have to grind out three seperate tech trees just to have a chance: Tanks (obviously), Helis, and Planes. No other mode requires you to have a lineup like that. Only Ground is littered with multiple tech trees when majority of players want to grind OR play with their tanks.
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Sorry that i barge in like this but i must say it. Imagine air RB with planes but you can also spawn in spaa.
Given what is logical and seen in-game, it seems likelier most (not all) are indeed in for CA gameplay.
You certainly don’t have to have all three (I don’t even bother with choppers myself)–but having more options does make you more dynamic in battle.
A player in RB GFs can forego aircraft and/or helicopters if they wish…they can even shun certain GF vehicles too. Aside from tree unlock conditions, little forces you to do anything.
I already answer that in comment 3 days ago in the topic “If you could, How would you re-balance CAS in Ground Battles?” If you could, how would you re-balance CAS in Ground Battles? - #2085 by Sytryse
I’m sorry, but CAS players are obviously in the minority. As I said, I do CAS as well, but I would enjoy having a Tanks Only mode as well. I shouldn’t have to be bombed hundreds of times when I’m trying to spade my tanks
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Improve the SEAD mode, make it viable at all technology brackets. Boom, done.
Also, start fixing Enduring Confrontation bugs and give us better missions. Boom, done. Oh, and make an RB variant.
When I want to play my planes, some of which I paid for, I play air modes.
When I want to play with my tanks, I don’t want to be coerced into taking out a plane (whose controls I have utterly butchered and cba to keep a ARB/GRB optimized control setup anymore). If I have to take out a plane, I’ll go back to ASB EC.
Which is what I’ve been doing the past few weeks/months. I try to play GRB, I see there being like at least 8 planes in the air (adding up friendly and hostile), “Return to hangar” and go back to flying ASB.
I do not see any real basis to this comment honestly. Considering all the tankers who fly we see, I’d suggest the opposite is true.
Based on how many people visibly use AFs and GFs, I’d speculate support for CA is likely closer to 75%+ than <50% or lower.
When Gaijin releases the surveying data, we’ll find out I guess.
Huh ? Don’t put words in my mouth please.
I am against TO mode.
I don’t mean this to piss people off, but i think it’s the best for the game.
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It’s vital to remember that not all who fly and drive want to do it at the same time, or in the same game mode type.
I love my planes. I don’t want to use my planes while driving a tank.
I have mostly aircraft hours played(244h SB + 200h RB), not tank hours (145+35+16).
This does not mean I want a combined arms mode.
This means I’d play tanks more if I could actually play them without being repeatedly told “just spawn CAP if you don’t want to be CAS’d” (to which the answer is: “OK, I’ll go fly planes in dedicated plane mode.”)
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Yes–it is difficult to gauge exact intentionality without consultations.
That’s why I used the word “speculate” and will emphasize that it’s not a definitive determination. The percentage of WT players here for CA certainly isn’t 100%…nothing in life is ever 100%.
Even so, I tend to believe more people come to this CA for CA than not. It’s the logical expectation.
I’m aware you’re against it, but by the way you’re talking, it seems like you abuse CAS.
Just because people use CAS does not mean they wouldn’t like a TO mode. I use CAS because it’s essentially a necessity at this point to grind two or three seperate tech trees just to have a line up for ground. TO mode would allow tank players to play tanks and not deal with no-skill players who rely on bombs to get elims.
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There is no “abuse”.
It’s a legit part of the game which i enjoy, same as tanks.
based on this i propose that air RB is fully removed
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