CAS problem

They’re trialling a SEAD game mode.

And SB is also a thing. I play props. I’ve had games decided by a frontline attacker or a fighter-bomber going to town on NPC tanks. IL-8s are menaces, I tell you.

You mean buildings? Would you like city map size of fulda? Or red sands? That’s would be next level trash for ground gameplay.

Or like proper foliage, maybe more things like the Vietnam map with those mounds which make some decent cover. It would also allow people to snip if they made the maps bigger.

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Wasn’t much better in the past where SPAA were always equivalent to the threat and unlike now you had to learn to deflection half-decently to bring them down. If anything the only thing that was only temporary was the CAS rampage eras like the HVAR’s being nukes or SACLOS physics nerf destroying all missile SPAA for a while. Every other period has almost always had this same debate going on and the same shit being said.

Why should they not? “They” can cope all day about their tanks only mentality but the reality is the best GRB players are ones who play Tanks, SPAA, light tanks, planes, helis all at once. If players want to use heli, or larp desert storm in planes, or whatever they wanna play: then that’s on them. Like I said, current GRB by design isn’t mean to appease this and that’s not a problem unless you let it be.

SPAA isn’t sitting in spawn unless you let it be either, though these days I rarely need to go scout/attempt to murder tanks since CAS isn’t uncommon and scout drones are powerful and make easy income to counter. Most games I don’t even touch aircraft because I simply don’t need to, often just don’t feel like it especially if I’m grinding tanks hard.

Vietnam?? You serious? One of the worst maps in game for ground battles, every time I’m getting it, i leave, as 3-4 players from both teams.

You want all maps to be like Vietnam? That’s would be disaster.

It’s funny, but previously 2CS6 and ADATS had the same BR.

Before it was ruined.
Now it’s only decent for helicopters.

i dont understand this whatsoever.
this is a videogame, just add a gamemode for people who want to play tanks.
how hard is it? its literally such a simple and clean solution that works for absolutely everyone.

there are plenty of maps that practically force you to sit in spawn the whole game

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Game and Ground TTs evolved more than enough to grant us a TO mode. Seeing how you can play air only but can’t do the same for tanks is weird.

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it just what people complain… It not relastic enough they keep complainning. Now Leopard and Abrams are more “relastic” Turret basket basically nerf it.

Specifically in regards to top tier, I would make the distinction that it’s not that they don’t want to play AA, it’s that they don’t want to play legitimately useless AA - and that’s what most countries have been left to rot with for years now.

People are begging for better AA on a daily basis. The demand is certainly there, it’s just not being answered.

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having a better SPAA would help and i would play it occasionally for some air vs ground pvp, but i dont want to play them 24/7 and sometimes i want to play actual fair ground battles. it would be best if there was an option to play either thing

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The thing is that even bringing better SPAA into the game won’t solve the core of the problem.

If I’m able to destroy a player in a tank with my tank why does he gain ability to destroy me back with something I’m not able to fight back while in a tank? Why the person who wins the fight gets put at the disadvantage? I can later spawn in a plane or SPAA, sure, but that doesn’t change the core issue that while in a tank I can’t do anything before I die.

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I’ve long been of the opinion that we should have a TO ‘event’, sort of like how naval EC is run.

Perhaps one or two days a week, maybe on weekends when server population is highest (less issues with player fragmentation / queue time inflation). Seems like an easy compromise of all wants / concerns.

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Are you slow…. Also stop putting words into my mouth. I said the hills in veitnam are some good cover and concealment. Also maybe your part of the problem if your leaving when you get a map you don’t like all your doing is hurting your team.

The logic is, “I’ve never seen a tank in a dogfight but i’ve sure seen a plane in a tank fight”

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yes it would be at most a temporary fix, except it would take more effort than a dedicated tank only mode

if anyone is doubting that CAS is a problem then i invite them to watch this goofy replay, that shows in the later half just how braindead CAS is. there tanks are 1) enganged in a fight with a teammate, and 2) cannot do anything in the first place.
i am literally ruining the fun of every single person involved except for myself. i very casually stole 2 kills from active 1v1 fights.

https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/333259212716226873

I don’t think we should be limited to an event only, as our player base has increased multiple times from the many years back when queue times were used as an argument against a new mode.

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Tank only is a big pipe dream. Gaijin will never add a tank only mode since it will hurt their revenue along with admitting that GRB have a lot of problem , with those directly linked to CAS itself , and they have to fix them. Which they won’t

No one doubt it , is just that to fix the whole problem it would not be easy. Since even SPAA itself is a big problem on it own.

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It might also be very detrimental to their combined arms idea/mode as who knows how many people would flock to TO.