Where I have said that a player can’t use SPAA or a plane? Where I have said that new things can’t be added or changed in current combined mode?
What I’m saying is that from a perspective of a player who just wants to use tanks the issue still exists and will exist.
Preatty simple thing to understand.
That is a thing that exists and what people have problem with so it is being discussed.
If I wanted to talk about other things I would do that, but I’m at the moment talking about the game from a perspective of a player who just wants to use tanks.
It doesn’t avoid anything, just talks about how things are.
I have at the same comment said that another air unit would be the best to destroy it.
Please read.
You know I have played in many tournaments with and against people with much higher skill that many here can’t imagine?
I know what best players can do.
When in a tank facing a tank there is always something they can do as game allows it.
Do I really?
What I have said?
Please tell me the difference.
The changes to spawn that one can disable, to SP that can be reduced with scouting making planes much easier to spawn (not to mention getting 2 assists for one player) etc?
Or are we talking about top tier SPAA that will later face much better air/weapons?
We already had such situation, it is nothing new.
You might think that, no one is forcing You to understand the game.
Their is a tank only mode like their is heli pve.
If you want just tanks then honestly you playing the wrong game also isn’t their public lobby’s you can make for only tanks. I will say they need to update that pve for tanks
Me personally I don’t mind CAS it balances the game by dealing with snipers/campers especially those who know how to use the commanders site and dealing with CAS can be difficult especially with those who know how to strike but every br has a counter to that with the spaa/other aircraft. plus CAS does require skill like looking for enemy’s and especially enemy’s hidden behind buildings or trees and low br learning how to use dumb bomb/rockets CAS isn’t the problem it’s honestly just communication between your team and skill issue
Also for planes that snipe miles away for consoles we got a nice box that practically shows the location of the aircraft even when behind a hill or trees (yes ik it’s op) my point is that you can go to quick messages and press attack this enemy plane will tell what it is and if you know you’re being targeted you can smoke witch loses the air to ground missile or hide behind trees or a building unless it gbu or jdam or equivalent I recommend smoking and leave that area of smoke without showing where you going because unless you want to catch a warhead on your forehead also their gonna be a aaa that’s in your team up putting pressure on that aircraft especially if they’re being nuisance
There is ways to tell your being targeted because some tanks/ifv have laser detection. For vehicles that don’t have it well keep your eyes peeled out for that CAS especially if you see someone going off in the kill list
It’s not my fault that you can’t remember berating me about how anything other than your mode would suffice…
And that isn’t what the issue actually is, you proclaim that stance as your goto to keep this argument going, but really, that’s just your crutch, and it’s a terribly bad one when you get to the brass tacks about it.
Just you… No-one else…
Again, just you.
Nope, you constantly derided me, making out you discussed anything, and were even genuine, but in reality, you were just plain outright lying.
Yes, yes, you have said that before, but you’ve been completely denying the fact of ANY other option being a thing… For you, it’s only a plane (Which I have mentioned that if that person struggled to get airborne with the SP, and gets shot down, then they can’t respawn, so that method only works SOME of the time…) or the planes get removed (Which as I’ve mentioned, many other options rather than protecting you artificially from a threat you refuse to have to acknowledge.)
I’ll have you know that not everyone plays those tournaments, and let alone, many are solely there to make up numbers. It doesn’t mean they are that good, or are the elite that you want to tout them as.
Stop gatekeeping and making insults to infer inadequacy…
Same with the plane versus a tank… Stop going around in circles back to this crutch you desire to use as a club because you truly don’t need it, you just overly use it hence why I say you barricade yourself from genuine discussion because you want to sit on your highhorse, and claim you’re above anyones repute.
The difference is a moderator trying to stop an argument that you fail to accept as being a discussion compared to a dictation…
The issue isn’t that the planes aren’t able to be got, and it never was… But you proclaim that there’s nothing to do against them which is vehemently false.
It’s still changes, and changes to make things better… Your want to remove planes will not make things better, and will in fact make players more prone to being blind to threats and more fixated on tunnel vision.
These idle insults really do get tiresome…
Infering that I don’t understand the game is just you being provocative to try and make an issue…
You have no actual argument, as your crutch is just a crutch that you hand out to the masses so they have an excuse and so you can bolster up the spam on the vote thread…
As I said, that vote will only ever bring in the aggrieved, it’s not actually accurate… Much the same as KDR and Winrate not definitively meaning someone is skilled.
So? It’s not just a tank game ima use CAS as well especially for nuisance tank players which are as annoying as CAS so just get over CAS it’s not a big deal everyone dies to CAS. And yes everyone relies on cas just because you don’t want to doesn’t mean CAS should be nerfed I mean honestly haven’t you ever heard of “ control the air space you control the ground”
Peopel say this but can’t grasp that I merely object to the suggestion or ‘need’ to implement such a thing to allow people who are unable to handle everything in the game, to function.
Yes, and that’s why Air Arcade, Air Realistic and Air simulator and Naval Arcade, Naval realistic exist.
Give us Tank Realistic and Tank Simulator.
I can fly my corsairs and mustangs and yaks and sauerkraut and spaghetti and sushi and fish & chips and be happy (within limits of gaijin jank). If I am so inclined as an air-t-air fighter player, I can make it so that never in my life do I ever have to ever consider or encounter SPAA - not even a.i SPAA - and remain a contributing factor in the match. My last ASB game was basically that where I just loitered at 4-5 km in my Fw190 and just jumped random people flying below me. Havn’t been shot at by a single (SP)AA in 60 hours of flight time.
Today I tried playing my sherman and M10 in GSB and the skies turned into planes that I spent most of my match trying to scare away from my friendly KV with my rooftop MG (it worked quite well, but I’d have preferred actually going around lobbing oversized HE at cats and sushi.) This was true across all 5 games I played, too.
Why can’t I drive my shermans, T-34s, Kvs, german cats and tea kettles in the same way as I fly my birds, facing only vehicles of the same family and dying only due to my skill issues rather than vehicles I cannot threaten (rooftop MG sherman not withstanding. Comets don’t get rooftop MGs.)?
So why am I allowed to play planes without worrying about SPAA and tanks EVER,
But I’m forced to think about planes when I want to play a tank?
Also, “CAS needs GRB” - ARB needs fixing, yes. We need RB EC. However, SB EC also exists and stick & rudder controls aren’t anywhere as scary as one would assume.
Solution to people who think nobody would play GRB if tank only was introduced and whinging about their attackers and bombers when an ecosystem already exists for them to inhabit.
Also if Tank only would destroy GRB&GSB due to splitting the playerbase, then what does that tell you?
The only reason people play GRB&GSB is because they’re forced to play in absence of other options.
The only argument people make against tank-only is de facto equivalent with wanting to keep players hostage.
Your own words betray your feelings.
If tank are only meant to be targets to you, what difference does it make if the tank is driven by a.i or a player? It makes no difference given neither can shoot you down (discounting american rooftop MGs and assuming you have baseline competence not to crash your plane into their main gun, thus crediting the kill.)
What’s sim got to do with it, and some of the modes listed also have planes in them, so you parading them around is literally nothing to do with this angle you want to take.
Never said that was the case, and it’s never been an argument I’ve put forth.
I disagree entirely, as you don’t know why people play those modes, this is just a judgement made on your angle.
I play myself due to the idea of SP points and being able to respawn many times without having to restrict myself to 3 spawns, and having nametags above heads all the time.
Not in the slightest…
What are you actually on about…
Ooohhhh, you’re assuming that I shoot fish in a barrel… Sorry, but no… I just play the game and when I see a target that I think is a priority, I hit it… Commonly players who have pushed up on the team, or are flanking.
Again, tanks aren’t your only option, you don’t need to engage those planes whilst being a tank, and quite often, that leads to you being bombed as you became a beacon for everything because you’re making shots into the air showing where you are and that you’re not facing the right way.
Sorry, but man, honestly, your arguments are as flimsy as wet toilet paper.
"I need GRB because ARB sucks for flying bombers and attackers and it’s just TDM and I can’t fly my Ju-87 or B-25 or Il-2 without feeling useless. In GRB, I feel like I contribute.
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“OK, if you want to fly bombers and attackers there’s this mode called SB EC where matches are won by attackers & bombers due to how ticketbleed is balanced and the EC game mode prioritizing objective-completion as a win-condition over air-to-air kills.”
If I’m not going to use tanks, then why would I play GRB and GSB?
This is nothing to do with what’s been said to you.
Again, nothing to do with what’s been put forth.
You can use tanks, but it’s the choice you get to use those vehicles that makes it more appealing to some.
Others though, nametags not being there, map markers not being there, no restriction on how many times to respawn… Many reasons that you glaze over just to fixate on you needing to have the mode made for you, to suit you, not wanting to be aware of air threats.
You have SPAA, and planes you can also spawn… You’re not in a wet paper bag that you can’t fight through, you just choose to be picky and argumentative about not being agreed with.
No, they are not… You can play Arcade for all I care, then at least there you get a warning that air is a threat, but it’s not going to change my mind on the fact that allowing players to avoid the threat, doesn’t make them any better, in fact I’d say it’d make them worse due to them being so comfortable in not being aware.
Not to mention, if they did get their own mode, just watch the next thing they want removed because they can’t actually handle playing the game and being got, plain and simple.
Bruh if you don’t have problems dealing with aircraft because you know you can take them on in arb then you should have no problem dealing with them in grb/asb/gsb in any br. Also their is aaa in arb you probably didn’t know because you either deal with pure dogfights or bvr but if you played attack aircraft and don’t just put focus on the 4 main bases you can see the tanks/ifvs/mlrs/aaa and are apart of the mission and if you listen closely when passing close to ground you can hear aaa firing near you actually if I remember correctly they nerfed the aaa bots because they killed people and it was annoying because you had to go to the hanger an re climb again and unlike grb where you can respawn. Also you loiter above people in arb/ it’s as annoying as CAS as like you said with out effort you can kill someone or go after bombers but just because it’s extremely effective doesn’t mean it should get nerfed. it’s a play style just like CAS in a way
No they don’t
Also it sounds like fun to have a mode of tanks only but its just gonna turn grb into the new naval or the tank only mode we’ll be like naval where theirs not a lot players playing to the point maps are gonna get smaller and possibly only have 5v5
Witch is why I also think they haven’t added dogfights only mode
Because You say so? Again, You can try to ignore the issue but it still exists.
Of course, we should also ignore all other people on forum. Again, ignoring it wont make it disappear.
Thanks for agreeing that You have lied before. Now to correct this, what I have said is that planes are the best option. You can always try with SPAA but in most cases, Yak-9 will have the upper hand (not like against another plane).
Again, You are just proving that You haven’t played them/taken part in them and You don’t really know what You are talking about.
When You are in a tank there is nothing You can do. Should I again post video with nashorn?
There is no difference in what he said and what I have said about people who just want to play tanks.
But thanks for confirming that You are still unable to understand the core of the whole discussion.
For people who like combined aspect of the game, not for people who just want to use tanks against tanks.
Again about it? As I have said many times before, if someone has to finish the job for You, it only shows that You are not really needed.