CAS problem

What point exactly am I missing?

SBMM would work like in most PvP ranked games, if ones want to play with more skilled players in squad he will have to face better players. The difference is now he can meet them all the time while with SBMM it would be his choice (not talking about normal SBMM in work when You meet better players in some range according to Your skill)

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I would honestly just spend time crashing, j-ing out, making myself easy target etc to dump my stats, just to “go back to lower skill class” to enjoy sealclubbing. Like, i would stop playing BB-1 if there was other skillzords who use it to sealclub new players.

And if i thought about it, thousands of other players thought about it too.

Wouldn’t change much

Already existing SBMM games proved it

but, you are coming off as an asshole… also playing the game to ruin it for people who enjoy playing what they are actually trying to play is just low. and you don’t seem to understand why this post was made by saying top tier cas/ cas in general is “part of the game” . that’s the ENTIRE point of this post. because the fact that its part of the game is an issue!. but reading the bullshit that you are yapping about makes this reply valid

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I don’t care…

It’s not, it’s playing the game as it was designed…

Are you all ruining the game for others by actually destroying them in any way? That’s the comparison…

Tanks are part of the game, naval is part of the game, dying and being destroyed is part of the game, especially when you are expecting to get a kill on someone. The hypocrisy is rife in this stance that you’ve made at the behest of others.

It’s an issue for some, not all, and the fact that there can be such villification on such responses, makes it clear that the issue isn’t with the game itself.

This ‘yapping’ is why we have a forum, and you can’t be upset at someone using the forum… To be like this, is a sign that you have an issue yourself.

This is something I have said all along, if you’re on a forum to discuss, and all you can do is mock, deride, and get angry at the mere posting of someone, then you should be looking at yourself…

I feel many just get snotty because I merely post a lot, and that’s absolutely the worst ‘reason’ to be upset about the contents of the post, and it leans peopel to making out that everythying is offensive, and they post angry attacks on the person instead of the point, and that’s where we get to this…

I don’t like how people paint themselves out as a victim, whilst villainizing someones for MAYBE getting people in this manner, in a game they are struggling to play because they aren’t paying attention, or are too confident in being invulnerable, or an unreasonable expectation of change…

It’s just a wind-up, and you’ve been dragged into it because of your want to make out that I’m the asshole…

And I’m surprised the thread has even survived considering every other CAS thread gets redirected to the other CAS threads because the CAS threads are almost posted daily…

Oh the irony

Still waiting for proper discussion

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buddy, you camping in a heli behind a hill or flying at 40,000 ft launching missiles that players cant avoid is not the same nor as respectable as actually using your brain in a tank on tank fight. destroying someone in a fair manner doesn’t ruin the game for others, launching missiles from space that tanks for the most part cant see or avoid IS ruining the game. also the only people who don’t think cas isnt an issue in GROUND battles are the people playing cas.

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As someone who commonly calls air, and prior to the air alert, used to call air manually, this is ideal… However many ignore that, and don’t ‘want’ to use it, so it can be for nothing.

But in saying that there are a lot of people taking out SPAA more recently, and it’s a lot less ‘vocal’ in the chats complaining about them being bombed or that air is a problem.

Again, not with you as you’ve demonstrated so many times that your ‘discussion’ is mere dictation and riling up peopel to attack people based on your definition of thier worth.

Who’d have thought there were actual viable options in this if you ‘use your brain’…

The urge for you to villify me and make out that I’m the heli pilot is peak ignorance to the points made… I can object to the pandering to the victim here without needing to be the person who is causing all the complaining.

I merely don’t think that it’s a good idea to make this sort of want a thing.

‘fair’… What you deem to be fair isn’t fair in others eyes, and when you get them with a tank that they can’t handle, then it’s unfair to them, things become rapidly ‘unfun’ and peopel then get aggressive about the game because the game isn’t what they want MERELY BECAUSE THEY DIED TO IT.

It’s a vicious cycle, and only echo chambers come from the gatekeeping and the villification attacks.

I will again post it so maybe we can get this topic back on rails and not destroy another one:

Maybe one day You will be able to actually discuss things

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Maybe you just need to stop trying so hard to make out you are open to discussion when it’s clear you aren’t, and only are when it favours your wants…

I can hold my opinion, but you think that I need to bow down to you or that you have to prove me wrong at every post, and that is your misinterpretation of discussion, and your angle of harrassment.

Maybe one day you’ll actually grasp genuine discussion rather than feeding a group to make a dogpile through passing on that misinterpretation.

Still waiting for the discussion about it, I have already asked You so many times to talk about this things as You were the one talking about them in first place, maybe one day:

Or maybe You know that I’m right in this or just don’t have anything to back up Your claims? Otherwise we could already discuss this things and talk about how they would work/not instead of getting another topic destroyed again.

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hmmm. well good job shooting a missile! but the fact that you think that clip completely validifies everything u have said is pretty funny. there’s a reason AAs are the least played ground faction. because they are useless. also, what Is an Abrams or t80 supposed to do when they have no idea a missile is barreling towards them at mach 100000. if AAs are so incredible and solve CAS completely why is it still a big issue?

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Not to mention that a lot of videos backed up by in-game stats are not good evidence for some, the clip works just fine!

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It doesn’t need to validate ‘everything’ I said, but you saying that I ignored everything is just straight ignorant to the post…

Exageration doesn’t do you any favours, and other players on your team can also spawn SPAA.

Because people deem themselves not needing to use them, yet still complain when they get got, and make out to everyone that they aren’t able to do anything, so it compounds the more that the afflicted keep listening to those who echo their concerns because they merely echo their problem…

Then when someone says anything counter to that, they try rip into them because they got told that it’s not a thing to do.

Much like how this conversation has gone.

Just because there’s a lot of people making the statement, doesn’t mean it’s actually true, and that’s where this constant posting of the CAS threads is actually a problem.

For anyone really interested
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/315917285828591664
It includes:

  1. Sitting and camping at the spawn up to the 8:21 when he bails out while his team gets destroyed.
  2. Dying to a tank while on spawn in SPAA
  3. Spawning SPAA again (killing 2 spawncamping light tanks, great job!)
  4. In the end dying to another tank, and losing the game.

I must say if not that plane, You would got hit by that another rocket, lucky for You!

Wanted to check other replays that showcases shooting down rockets, but I got something different:

It was interesting to me since radar should be able to pick that helis

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i mean i play AAs and basically every match i have multiple AAs on my team, yet somehow a su34 either flying in the stratosphere or genuinely doing extremely close air support manages to kill me. so either AAs suck, or everyone in every single one of my matches that uses AAs is stupid.
also i dont think cas should be removed per say. i think that helis and planes shouldn’t be able to be spawned until 5 mins through the match, AND planes costing significantly more sp to spawn.

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Instead of doing that and destroying fun for players who enjoy current state of things there is nothing wrong in just adding a TO mode.

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true. that would be the best, but I doubt the snail would do that since they get a lot of soul- I mean money from people buying planes only for CAS. so something else will probably have to be thought of.

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Using something that can’t get the job done is not interesting.

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