I’ve used 10x zoom on the German 8.3 and it feels more than fine against Gepards and equivalents.
5km is a bit generous.
I Agree with the point which you made about driving a slow tank into battle (especially before br 7.0) and by the time you get to the point or the fight, there are planes in the air bombing you. I would propose a solution where maybe planes cannot be used as a second spawn until a certain amount of time has elapsed in the battle. The more annoying thing which I usually face especially in the higher brs is helicopters being used for first spawn and then planes being used right after the helicopter for the second. It is clear that Cas much more powerful than the things which fight against it, but I think there are other solutions than nerfing CAS
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I agree that better map design and more choice can definitely have an impact on countering camping, and I do think there is allot of room for improvement in the current map design, but I would argue that there are always going to be players who make their playstyle camping, no matter how good the map design. Its easy to stay in the same place without the worry of dying to planes, and CAS is an important part of the counter to this playstyle.
An effective camper can wreak havoc on the flank of the enemy team while remaining undetected for some time. Especially at the lower Br’s, spotting and dealing with this threat can be extremely challenging no matter how skilled you are. Even with better map design (which is unlikely) camping will still occur, just look at open world games such a DayZ to see this play out even when the map is large and well made. CAS will always be the best counter for this. I do agree that something needs to be done about CAS to Balance it out more, but I see it as a vital part of the game.
How often you see CAS searches campers?? They targeting who moves, captures points and playing active. Those who camping in cover are relatively safe.(If it’s not revengebombing)
So what you saying is not true, CAS won’t helping dealing with campers it’s actually opposite, makes everyone hide and don’t move so won’t be visible.
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you can’t hide from CAS and of course they are going to go after whoever you see, but that process deals this campers as well
The idea that we need air to solve campers so we must include untouchable jets cause they might kill campers. And then become map campers killing everything with out a challege is peak air boy wants to beat up on ground unimpeded and get free kills cope
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The simply fact is GAIJIN once again dropped the ball however this time its a 2 year doubling down on that mistake. The failure of the devs to actually release heavy sams anywhere near the time they released jet after jet is what has doomed ground to one death leavers that and premuim. Its entirely a problem of gaijins OWN DOING. They could’ve of very bascially not compressed air or at least not allowed in ground until they put our credible heavy sams for every nation. They have outright ignored japan israel and italy for the last few years in ground spaa systems. Deciding to leave these nations without radar save for italy they finally gave it an osa akm with radar and missles
Let us also get rid of this notion we need AIR to remove camping. No what gaijin did is simply replaced camper ground with air map campers who can kill anyone and pretty much every ground unit with immunity. That isnt a solution that isnt fixing gameplay that is destroying ground because of lot JET players want a free kill on ground players. Because they dont want to play in air rb they decide its easier to get those kills in ground
Yes it deals campers, if CAS goes straight to camper, but that’s happens once in 10 battles. Guys taking light fast vehicles to cap home point or get 1-2 assist and spawn plane, mostly they don’t care about campers and targeting those who moves, captures points and tries to be active, or bombing spawn and campers continuing camping.
Lets spam more and more jets for 2-3 years that eclipse all the sams and spaa in game. Yes even the panstir can no longer be deemed a credible threat. Because Air players have to much freedom on the map can attack from any direction at ground level super sonic speeds. And this has only made one death leavers worse the premuims made it a problem. Air now having compete and total domaince in ground has made sure that problem isnt going away
Camping in ground isnt a problem it is literally ground game play. Adding air to counter it was and always will be in the current meta a utterly bs argument
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It deals with campers by becoming map campers that can also camp spawns but now both and hit anything that spawns or moves with relative immunity. Making sure if you dont have air up you die. The first team that can spam air can usually and does win because they can punish ground with very little risk.
Ah yes the classic post from someone who does not have a real line up at top tier complaining about people using full lineups at top tier. These posts should just be auto modded out, its so tiring listening to the cope from people who don’t think they should have to grind top tier CAS, telling everyone else that did that the whole game should change because they said so. CAS is only OP when you literally don’t have spaa or planes of your own. Which judging by your stats you literally only have top tier spaa for one single nation and 0 LITERALLY 0 top tier planes.
Especially when You are driving a tank or spaa that doesn’t have as effective range as a plane
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Spawn a plane bro.
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“Die and be happy about it”
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muh range muh range all so tiresome.
Die and play some quasi-ARB in a Ground mode.
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I explained everything and high tier matches confirms my point, i have lineups (and many others too) but as i said before, there’s no point to continue 2nd-3rd spawn.
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This forum has discussed this “problem” over 10000 times already. Just because you do not have the CAS doesn’t mean everyone else can’t use them.
Who said i don’t have and who said nobody should use it??