No one is trying to ruin your good time just go do it in combined with other people like that and let people have TO
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Simple as in you reciting your internal dialogue every time you get blown up by a plane right? I mean:
Yeah dodge a Roland in your KA-50, it’s basically a game of “tell me you know little about CAS vs SPAA” without actually saying it. You don’t play CAS, you think it’s simple, you have minimal supporting simple, you feel extremely indignant it exists, basically everything except “I don’t know”.
If you don’t like it don’t play it, simple as that. You can complain all day that the game doesn’t cater to you but it’s something that’s had GRB as a combined arms mode for what? 10 years?
Then what’s the problem if you can adapt? Oh yeah I forgot it turns out leaving matches and refusing to learn doesn’t get you very many war thudner monies. If you can’t tell that’s sarcasm lol.
Man at this rate they going to point to flappy bird and tell me “dis easy, cas bad unga bunga” and then scurry off into the jungle.
ka-50 has the same chance against the roland as the roland has against it and also comes with distinct advantages against the roland.
but the ka-50 isnt a jet launching F&F missiles from kilometers away and flying low and stealthy
the game didnt have AGMs with 20 km of range for 10 years, at most things that required some skill to hit targets and exposed the aircraft to at least a little bit of danger.
imagine playing CSGO with a spontaneous human combustion feature, thats what we have in war thunder, just with a sparse and underpowered counter.
why should ground players pay for the inability of their only SPAA?
this would make sense if GRB was renamed to SPAA-RB.
in what world can you say that a tank getting exploded by an AGM is fair, what counterplay is the tank supposed to do? die, get in a SPAA and just stay there for the rest of the match? every single game?
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Its not a CAS problem. Its a KH-38MT Problem.
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its a CAS problem
I base my answer about the VT-1, ADATS and 2S6 from topic in 2023 With the recent changes to the 2S6, it's BR needs to adjusted accordingly.
It’s not KH-38MT problem. It’s CAS problem.
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Regardless, 2S6 is meh and now with the addition of Osa, I’d say Osa is better for long ranges than 2S6.
Its also incompetent SPAA players or not enough SPAA players.
That’s problem with fact, that spaa gameplay is boring af.
I don’t even play pantsir out of boredom, and it is “best spaa in game”.
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SPAA is not and will never be a legitimate counterpoint to CAS.
players dont want to play SPAA, its as simple as that.
planes simply dont belong into a ground gamemode and its physically impossible to create a balance, someone will always be sacrificed for the enjoyment of an aircraft player.
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SPAA is not boring. Its quite satisfying to be honest.
If fire and forget missiles like the KH-38MT or Mavericks were removed. It would be a better place. CAS that user laser guided weapons like brimstones are not as bad. Longer guidance time from long range, and easier to kill with SPAA as they have to be close to the field.
entirely subjective
yea it would be. if CAS was removed outright, it would be a damn lot better
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Dudes will literally want to artificially nerf everything to the ground just to not admit, that allowing players to play tanks with OR without planes would solve everything while keeping playerbase happy
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Shhhh, we can’t have that because it could show that no tanker want to play the combined game.
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Yh but then u have to also remove the SPAAs which are starting to get cool. And all of the planes Air to Ground weapons and bombers/CAS planes (especially premiums) would be rendered useless.
Their is only one CAS weapon that is can’t be effectively counter at least 25% of the time and it is the KH-38MTs, they need to add better AA and keep CAS how it is. Additionally bigger maps will make it harder for CAS to do a lot of damage in a short amount of time. Finally if they do add SAM systems CAS will need to get Anti Rad to balance it.
you wouldnt have to remove SPAAs, many are still capable of killing tanks
there could be another gamemode for combined gameplay. such an incredibly simple solution that works for everyone
they need to nerf CAS and keep AA as it is. or just add the other gamemode
That’s wrong! Big maps don’t mean cover and good gameplay experience for ground players. We have big maps what are mostly unplayable for ground and completely open, so CAS with thermals can easily pick targets + spawn zones are well known.
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