Oh? Those are? Also, does it say anything about what Mk 5 Centurion variant Canada used? As I found some things that say it is 5/2 but I can’t verify it.
From what I could find, it states it’s the Mk 5/1.
Mk 5/2 has the Royal Ordnance L7 105mm gun but the Mk 5/1 has two coax MGs, one .30 (7.62) and one .50cal and the main cannon is the 84mm (20pdr)
And here’s the image from my book
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Thanks for that.
Ah, that talks about upgrading the Mk 5s with the 105mm gun. Well, the book calls it the Mk 11 that modification is also referred to as Mk 6 and Mk 5/2 from what I’ve found. (more things seem to say Canada used the Mk 6. so it’s likely Canada used the MK 3, 5, 6 and 11 by the number of things claiming this list.)
Huh the Ontario Regiment RCAC Museum claims it 5/2 LR is a Canadian one. But I’m not sure it’s a 5/2 at all.
I’m looking at my book and it says:
" ‘C’ Squadron was equipped with 21 Centurion Mk III tanks, with a 20-pdr, in January 1952."
“The Canadians’ first choice for the new tank was the American M-48 Patton - three divisions worth - with the M-47 as a back-up, but production problems prevented delivery of the vehicles in the 1951-52 time frame that was required, so the order was cancelled.”
“The Corps then focused on the British Centurion, which had by this time developed an exceptionally good reputation in Korea, to the point that even the Americans were contemplating an order.”
“In 1964, an additional nine Armoured Recovery Vehicles were acquired, and four Centurion bridge layers were purchased in 1966. Bought as Mk IIIs, the Corps upgraded the Centurions to Mark V standards by replacing the original Besa co-axial machine-gun with a .30 Browning.”
I did look into the Royal Canadian Dragoons “C” Squadron though and found this:
So most of the Canadian Centurions kept the 20pdr but the ones in Europe were upgunned to the L7-105mm
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So Canada had both the 5/1 and the 5/2, the 5/1 was used in Canada while the 5/2 was used in Europe
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I think it’s fair to say Canada used the 20-pdr Mk 3 and 5 at home and 105mm Mk 5/2 or Mk 6 and Mk 11 in Europe for all this we found.
Well that solves that problem, thanks for helping look into that.
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I decided to check to see what Centurions Canada would’ve used are ingame and found some:
https://wiki.warthunder.com/Centurion_Mk.5/1
https://wiki.warthunder.com/Centurion_Mk_3
Yeah this is Australian but its close enough. Was looking for the co-axial 50cal if anything.
The Israeli “Sho’t” is a Mk V but it doesnt have the co-axial 50cal.
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Rank IV and V is just ATGM-carriers, recoilless rifles and IFV’s. 💀. Are you trying to make things even worse? I might just pray tonight that this tech tree never comes to the game lol.
Not to be super snarky, but:
There’s also a fair bit more than those. I think OPs intent was adding broad variety. If someone were to implement the tree, they could have selection to choose something to fit a certain category.
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Just don’t comment then lmao, simple as that.
Bait used to be believable
God forbid people discuss something that they both have in common
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right and so i pressed the “no” button in the poll lol
This is a suggestion thread. Whats wrong with me objecting with the proposal?
I mean BRs and placement are not final and just a suggestion plus Thatz doesn’t like giving things BR so he struggled with that.
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right well my concern is that similar contempoary recoilless rifles in the game already sit at rank 4/5 and around 6.7, so it would be logical if these vehicles were added that they sit in similar places. thats my concern
It’s still a fuller tree compared to Israel and Japan.
And IFVs are common at ranks IV and V, so I dont get the big deal, look at the Italian tree.
We’re still figuring out vehicles as we go, so the extra sources help, and Thatz seems to appreciate the extra sources and input.
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Comparing this proposal to Isreal is not a good look, even if it is marginally “better” lol. Isreal should never have been added.
Right thats the problem…
well that sounds good, you concerned about copy paste too?
BRs aren’t final. My own take was a good bit different, and leveraged assault guns, and made-in-Canada armour that was exported - like Argentinian TAMs in the German tree.
Think Canada’s tree is naturally going to be more heavily wheeled, simply because we industrially specialized into motorization, not mechanization.
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i mean its fine if you guys like that, im not much into the fs-slingers, i just wish some of the old brs and ranks could remain intact without the intrusion of these vehicles