Shout-out to Australia, Poland and Spain for also being between trees
Eh? What do you mean by this?
Indeed, it is very annoying and frustrating, and anyone interested in a nation that’s been treated like that wants it to stop.
Well, I personally make all my suggestions with the hope we get a Canadian or CAN-ANZAC tech-tree, I’d take the UK at worst.
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Making a joke about how strong Napalm is in game compared to any other type of bomb
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Maybe he made a joke about ‘overpowered-and-lightweighted’ mighty napalm bomb.
The true techtree wrecker XD
Ah, ya, fair.
I’ve used them a few times to base bomb myself.
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No, Britain doesn’t need to get every plane in existence.
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I would’ve agreed with that if CF-104 were one of ‘Lockheed-built F-104 which was bought by Canada.’
Because Canada is part of the Commonwealth but not the United Kingdom.
Just like the C2A1 MEXAS and Leopard 2A4CAN case. :|
But, CF-104 is a Canadair-built F-104, which was built for Canadians.
If you think ‘british are trying to steal American jet’, I humbly can say that we can use the same exact theory on you guys.
If we consider either Canadian or CAN-ANZAC tech-tree never comes out for arguing’s sake (Sorry OP.)
I think the British have a slightly higher priority than the Americans to grab this beauty.
Maybe Americans can get this on the same or next update, just like the Skink did.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t care about the part that American gets CF-104.
just disagreeing about “yes to US but no to UK”
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If you bought a deep fryer from a restaurant and used their recipe to make French fries with it with maybe a second or 2 difference, it’s still largely identical to the restaurant’s fries
Same applies to CF-104 it’s still an American airframe, Lockheed was still heavily involved in the design and the changes were not very big on the airframe itself
The thing is, Britain had zero to do with the aircraft, while the US designed it, it’s a licensed copy. If it was a licensed copy of a British aircraft then Britain should get it. If it was an indigenous design (say, a CF-100 or the CF-105) then it’d also be reasonable for Britain to receive it, as the US would have nothing to do with the design.
But the point stands that this would be a copy, or at very least a modification, of an American vehicle, not ever operated by Britain, in the British tree, just because. Just like some British mains want modified American F-18s, F-111s, A-4s, F-16s, F-15s, Abrams, or German Leopards 1 and 2, Boxers, Lynxes, French Rafales and Mirages, Swedish Gripens, seemingly every popular foreign vehicle unless it’s Russian.
I believe that nations should either have a proper subtree with everything they’ve got (and only one or maybe 2 max per nation), or else if they’re going to be added piecemeal than one home nation for all primarily domestic designs and then foreign vehicles, whether copies or simply purchased, to the nation that developed them.
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Why do I even bother with suggestions? The WT community has made itself clear. Canada isn’t allowed a home or an opinion.
I’ll be fank there is no need, nor should the CF-104 join the game untill Canada gets a home.
For the US tree. You have plenty of domestically operated, Lockheed-built ones to join your tree. No need for a foreign-built and operated one.
For the UK tree. You’re missing domestically operated aircraft, so no need for these anytime soon.
AKA, neither tree has a need nor should have a claim for it for a long time.
however(my two cents after my more ideal)
It does fit the UK tree more, have you seen the flag in the images? I see one Union Jack on it not stars and stripes
Rippeing a nation acrrose TT is not to be supported and it scews over those intrested in the nation and shows you look down on them.
The best way for someone to join WT:
Independent tech-tree
Nothing in-game
Sub-tree
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Being ripped across TTs.
If we got a sub-tree rework, it would be higher.
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Have you seen the plane itself ???
Anyway, iirc, in order to use the nuke, it had to lose all the other weapons(at least it didn’t have them). I know the gun was removable, able to be replaced with another fuel cell(or was it the cameras).
Eh, it’s unlikely that’ll show up any way that isn’t a new nuke plane for GRB.
Out of all the options why would the CF-104 be the nuke plane? Why not the existing F-104. CF-104 would be a nice way for US to get an F-104G
I agree it wouldn’t make sense as a nuke plane for any existing tree
However at the same time I think that this would be best saved for an independent Canadian tree and it given to the US
The US already has the F-104A/C, and the F-104G and CF-104 are both pretty much the same as the A/C in terms of flight performance, slight downgrade even. And this doesn’t exactly have countermeasures nor AIM-9J, no missiles at all apparently.
So even lower BR F-104?
Oh, by the way
Danish and Norwegians bought the CF-104 from Canada.
Will there be any chance for Sweden?
AFAIK, Gaijin never officially announced either Denmark or Norway as a sub-tree of Sweden, but it seems they like to add vehicles from these to Sweden.
Maybe at this rate, I guess Sweden will have the highest chance of grabbing CF-104 outside of Canada.
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On top of that, there’s stuff to put them apart. As they did use AIM-9s on theirs.
Unlike Canada, which went, you know what would be a good idea to use the Stairfighter for, CAS.
If USA gets the Canadian version of CF-104
The lowest BR option may be in the same BR as F-104A/C and will act like Su-7 on soviets, I guess.
F-104, which has a lower BR than 9.3, will be ruthless and ruin the early jet era even worse.
Even without AIM-9B, I don’t think a Supersonic jet needs to get lower than 9.3BR, and Su-7/Q-5(early) will be the eastern counterpart of CF-104, maybe.
They also don’t have R-3S equivalent, but in 9.3BR.
I mean the F-104 itself is a pretty old jet that trades everything for speed, and the F-104G the CF-104 is based off of being a downgrade in FM from what I’ve heard, as well as CF-104 not having missiles, could make it 9.0
I see there’s a discussion about the F-104G here, and it caught my attention. I’d like to point out that there’s already an open suggestion for the F-104G to be added to the US tech tree:
IMO, I’d like to see the F-104G added as a premium Starfighter for the US. Meanwhile, the UK, other nations, or even an independent Canadian tree can have their CF-104 variant as they see fit.
Ultimately, +1 for the UK.
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