Can we not-have Nagato herself as an event vehicle?

Hi,
We pretty much know that Nagato herself is coming in with the upcoming patch.

There’s some serious worry that she will be released as the upcoming event vessel. Moreover - she’s likely to be in the much more modern version than Mutsu, making her superior to the Tech Tree.

If that’s what you are aiming for - can we ““just”” swap them around - release Mutsu as the time-limited event vehicle, and Nagato into the tech tree?

Nagato was historically far more important vessel - she was the Flagship of the IJN, she was the vessel from which the order to attack Pearl Harbor was given, she was also the only Japanese battleship to survive the WW2.

Having her locked behind a timed event would be a huge disservice to the people looking to play the Japanese naval tech tree.

Meanwhile, Mutsu makes for a perfect event vehicle - she in her early interwar configuration could represent an interesting twist on the tech-tree Nagato, something great to get, but a novelty vessel.

Event vehicles should be interesting twists on the tech tree, rather than the ultimate versions way above of what is accessible for all the players.

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We don’t. We know that Nagato is coming eventually. Leaks from Olivia are never for the next update, they’re general WIP stuff.

That’s not how Gaijin and game development in general operates. They had the Mutsu planned for this patch. I would actually guess that the Nagato will come to the tree later much like we got the Ise-class IJN Hyuga and then much later we got the actual IJN Ise because Japan has already had naval event vehicles, one of which, the IJN Kurama, was very recent.

Hard agree. The Nagato being an event vehicle would be incredibly sad. Vehicles like IJN Mutsu would make way better event vehicles than Nagato.

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Have you considered that Nagato could just be another line ship?
Given the up gun, up armor, up AA nature of the Nagato-class in the 1940s that seems a bit more likely than an event vehicle that is outright superior to the sister ship in tree (looking at the Kongo and her sister event ships)

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We don’t know when Nagato is coming, only that something relating to her has been found in a file somewhere. The same thing happened with Mutsu, and then the immediate following patch she was/is added.
Just sounds like we’re going to have a fun June. But it could be even more fun if Gaijin put Mutsu behind Fuso or Ise where she should be.

Well it wasn’t IJN Nagato.

I love the Bayern class, but damn we really do not need 3 of them in-game.

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I honestly don’t care. Good event vehicle choice because it’s basically the same as the SMS Bayern and so nothing is lost if you don’t get it.

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So… the second patch is coming in, since the topic was raised. We had Bayern and Alcione in the last two naval events, which is great. (fun fact here: Alcione was on the same list that included Nagato. There were two other vessels on that list which didn’t hit the game yet: IJN Shisaka (most likely Hiburi-class) and IJN Takanami (most likely Yūgumo-class) - see: https://gszabi99.github.io/ under “Leaked assets (datamined assets excluded)”)

So… @Gaijin - pretty please, release Nagato to the tech tree 🙏

On the side-note, I’m still not sure why US didn’t get any of the Colorado-class and UK any of the Nelson-class in their 1920s refits with 1920s ammunition. These wouldn’t introduce any significant imbalance on top of what we have in BR 7.0. And yes, I’m more than aware that it’s desperate for the decompression, which is long overdue since Gaijin added an option to have a separate BRs for the aircraft, depending on the game mode. They could have easily pushed airplanes in BRs >7.3 into +1.0 BR, or even +2.0 and decompress the entire Naval tree without affecting any of the balance with the aerial units.

Wasn’t it confirmed to be the Takanami class GP destroyer from 2001? As even gszabi refers to it as such (plus I raised the question an they mentioned it as such).

Heh Alcione eyeroll, That ship still doesn’t have its name bloody fixed in battle but oooooooo a loadout error for the IRIAF F-14A gets fixed in one day… (shows you how much they cared for naval rewards).

Speaking of the Alcione, it isn’t in the war thunder wiki but the F-14A IRIAF is .

Well, It really show how little they bloody care…

Been getting extremely angry as of late with this poxy games crap they’re pulling with this game mode to the point in getting rather angry in chat out of frustration.

No. Please No.
Japan doesn’t have many battleship. Nagato, Tosa, Yamato, Musashi. End. Maybe No.111?
Only five ship for three tech tree. Even should be for nation with abundant nation such as USA and GB.

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https://wiki.warthunder.com/Alcione

the article is there, just missing from the tree.

I seriously doubt that the Takanami is DD-110, and I never head of it being confirmed DD-110. Sea Sparrows, Type 88 missiles, Phalanx CIWS, naval helicopter… no way in hell they’re adding that into the game in any foreseeable future. The thing would own the entire map by just sitting at the spawn point.

And I know that Albatros-klasse with non-functioning Exocet is already in the game, but that’s more like a fluke, than anything serious. DD-110 is a whole other dimention.

To be honest, It isn’t to far fetch especially if it was to not have missile armament while keeping the rest as that’s already on similar era ship (counting late 1980’s-1990’s & not tonnage).

Still, We do know at some point they will add a 2003 missile corvette, as afterall why add its superstructure to the same decal the MiG-29 was on.

Yet only time will tell.

On a sidenote, I do wish naval helis would be usable in this mode as most wouldn’t be all that powerful compared to something like Saetta (for AShM) or any current torpedo bomber if equipped with an ASW torpedo & we’ve a few in game examples Ka-29, H-34, Wessex, Wasp.

I was also thinking the leak was referring to the “Ayanami-class destroyer, Takanami” (DD-110)/JDS Takanami, but Olivia’s leaks refers to the asset specifically as “Takanami-class destroyer, Takanami”, AKA DD-110/JS Takanami.

Both ships have the same name and DD number.

I could see the leaker possibly confusing the two ships though, maybe causing a mix up.

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Unlike Alcione and Albatross, which differ in Depth Charge models (though I’m unsure how performance differs in-game), JDS Ayanami and JDS Takanami would only differ in air and surface radar models, and even those would look look and perform not too different/if at all. The only visual difference would probably be the presence of a transparent sphere/cover over the fire director for JDS Takanami. Even though JDS Ayanami would also sport the same modification later in its life.

JDS Takanami

JDS Ayanami later in its life, sporting the same appearance as later produced sisterships such as Takanami
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I am hoping for JS Takanami, Takanami-class destroyer though, in anticipation of future naval progression. We are already seeing this sort of progression in WT Mobile, with less advanced ships such as the Hamburg-class, Takatsuki-class, and now the Truxtun-class missile cruiser being introduced there. Give or take 1-2.5 years and I could see those ships and future additions to WTM being backported to the main game.

It’s a wiki, feel free to edit her in yourself, that’s how they work. :P

 

sad Yuugumo-class Takanami noises

They’re actually Type 90 SSM-1B. And, they’ve been in the game files for years:
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