Okay, so I have done 609 sorties in my Block 50 (I have a personal childhood fondness of this aircraft, so its my all time favorite only topped by the infamous F-22) and there’s only one problem, its Fox 3 loadout. The Sidewinders are great, but AiM-120A’s are straight garbage, they kill more blue then red, (that’s from other pilots, I don’t think I’ve had any TK’s because of a mistrack, and I’ve been Tk’ed by a couple 120A’s), The problem is that the Block 50 is more than capable of carrying the AiM120-C-5, and firing them, I do understand the balancing, I’m not saying give it the 120-C-5, I’m just saying give the aircraft missiles that it would’ve carried and fired during the majority of its time in service, or take it to 14.0 and give it the 120-C-5. I’m almost certain I have been killed by more MICA’s and AiM120-C-5’s then any other Active Radar Homing missile in the 609 sorties that I’ve done. So Gaijin, please give us F-16 Block 50 pilots and better life that’s not spent at the bottom of the leaderboard because you only carry up to 6 ARH missiles and the missiles you carry don’t hit shit half the time. I think the most kills I’ve gotten is 3 with the AMRAAM’s, and a sidewinder kill before the sortie was finished. I understand that’s 3/4 on AMRAAM’s but that doesn’t account for the 400+ sorties where I have shot all 4 AMRAAM’s and not a single one hit.
the AIM-120C-5 is a downgrade over the AIM-120A ingame lol
Actually all the aim120 need buff
Do you mean the F-16 should use a worse missile? (C-5 is worse than A/B)
Unless you use an F-15 or Typhoon, that can fire high and fast. You are better off with A/B AMRAAMs at the moment.
But it sounds more like user error if you keep on killing teammates with them.
Stop firing missiles towards teammates
I don’t own F-15s or Typhoons. But most of the missiles that both of those aircraft carried when I engaged them were AIM-120A/B missiles.
Yeah, because even in their hands. C5s are at best a side-grade.
I personally run C5s because my playstyle suites them quite well. More defensive, where I can reliably fire from 25k ft at Mach 1.5+, But for most, A/B are at worst, equal, if not better.
The meta thing to do would be to run a small number of C5s early game and then use A/Bs the bulk of the match, but im too lazy for that
If you would have read fully that was from other Block 50 pilots that have had that issue. My most recent sortie I locked a Gripen at 7 miles and my slow ass missile because the C-5’s have a higher top speed and more reliable on-board guidance system.
There’s no issue, just players who fling missiles carelessly.
And active radar missiles have a high resistance to swapping to targets with different speeds. And people still fire them into furballs and clean up their teammates
I happen to think similarly but running only AIM-120A/Bs :P
p.s. HNY
They dont.
Aim-120C5s have a longer burn time, which means they have longer range. But sub I think its about 13-15km (about 8-9 miles) Aim-120B is actually faster because same thrust but less weight.
Using StatShark - See All Player, Missile, and Vehicle Statistics Aim-120B would actually hit the target about half a second earlier than Aim-120C5 given the range of 12km
They are 100% identical as far as I am aware (In-game)
Okay so the main reason I made this post is due to prior real-world experience with the F-16, its Avionics and weapon system. The Ground loadout is fuckin spot on for what it carry use as far as ground ordnance, but this aircraft’s air-to-air loadout is lacking. like I said in the post, I have spoken to other pilots that have had that issue I haven’t had that issue myself because I actually kinda understand TWS and Data Link. Im just saying if they are going to give the Block 50 AiM120’s at least give us the 120B’s so we at least have a chance.
Yeah, if I wasnt in an aircraft that quite happily sits at Mach 1.5, Id choose Aim-120Bs most of the time
AIM-120B’s are the same as AIM-120A’s ingame, because there’s no reliability mechanic to represent the seeker improvements
Aim-120A and Aim-120B are 100% identical in-game. They are both modeled using FAA/RAF data for the Aim-120B (At least mostly) acquired from the British National Archives (quite a bit by Flame)
Stat cards say otherwise, and i promise you the same can be said for the reality aspect too.
The C-5’s are better in almost every way. Launch Range, speed, their maneuverability is also better, they are more accurate, there is a reason every aircraft that carries them is 14.0 or higher.
Stat cards are pretty much always wrong / only tell half the story. I really hope they overhaul them some day.
This is pretty much their only current advantage over the A/B
Literally no difference in actual matches. Especially when fired from an F-16 (at least sub 15km)
In-game its worse, A/B actually turn better
Exact same seeker in-game
Yeah, Gaijin are idiots. The F-16I really doesnt belong at 14.0
You don’t want the C-5. If I had the option I’d swap out all AIM120 on my F-15I for even Fakour90s, lol.