later variants have crazy range.
Absolutely agree, Russia is good with its existing missile pool. They’re good for a while, even with ARMs.
Exuse me?
Why strongest cas platform in the game needs to get even stronger cas ammunition?
Was about to say the same thing lmao
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Because i want kh31?
Oh right when u say it like that it makes alot of sanse
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I can only guess Gaijin was facing the possibilty of no longer being Puteen’s Discord kitten or something because what the game surely needed was another era where Russia sat uncontested in the SPAA category. Maybe it was over-performing on the Dev server but I doubt it. Can’t notch it, can’t multi-path it. What joy.
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Astro is a complete idiot, and spreads tons of misinformation. Do not listen to him.
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While I do doubt that; he’s also not the only War Thunder CC to point out how OP this SPAA is.
u can notch it easily. (u have to notch n change altitude). idk but when i tested it i couldnt even get a single hit at low flying targets. i tested it multiple times throughout the dev. he hid the altitude value of the a-10 in the video and u can actually see him properly flying low at the end of the video and 11 missiles miss him , only the 12th one hits him. https://youtu.be/N4nmR1yomSY?si=da0VmcU_Y0Jkitt5&t=10 this is the full encounter of the final clip and i feel like he is nitpicking stuff to make it seem more op. he literally cut the video in half to make it look like it was easier to hit it.
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How is it able to hit close range targets? These Sams with their lofting phase shouldn’t be effective at closer ranges.
Well Astro focuses on short form content. Like TikTok and Youtube Shorts. The videos himself are rarely longer than two minutes and the intent is to briefly cover updates, leaks, drops, etc. Im not intending to defend his format, but explain how it is done. And he didnt appear to show the altitude of the F-15 either. We know notching and multi-pathing are not 100% fool-proof tactics either.
Maybe the missile was overperforming on the dev server. Maybe the other new options were underperforming. I can concede to the compromise of “we won’t actually know until it goes to the live server”.
But again, he’s not the only one to point out how much more powerful this SPAA is over others. Matdawg and TEC, as much as I don’t care for either of them, have said pretty much the same; that it is shaping up to be the strongest SPAA option and I am sorry but Russia does not need another reign as top SPAA. It just doesn’t. The Pantsir went two whole years unchecked as the best missile slinging AA. And my point isn’t to leave them in a worse state than everyone else, but to keep them at the same level.
i think SAMP/T will be the best. but we weren’t able to test it properly cus its radar was still buggy n had a range of 20km. its missile was underperforming in dev server but i think it will probably get buffed (atleast if they implement the accepted reports). but even kinematically i think buk m3 missile will have pretty good performance as its a pretty big missile 580 kg vs 450 kg for the aster 30 but aster 30 can detach its huge booster once it burns out to reduce its drag. both use TVC but aster 30 can pull more Gs. i do feel like they need to add ARMs or atleast cruise missiles to counter these systems.
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The developers could have gone with a simpler option, returning the characteristics of the Pantsir to the level when it was added, or adding the Pantsir-SM, but they decided to create the BUK
Just don’t use air anymore. Ever. These jets cost several hundred spawn points. Its just no worth it, except for KH-38 or Hammer capable ones.
Its a bit over the top to powercreep anti air that much. BUK shouldn’t have been ingame before there are counters like Patriot.
patriots , s300/400s are definitely coming within 2025 , maybe ARMs aswell. i thought they would try to add bigger maps or make the maps bigger but ig they dont care at this point.
Its just unfair. Russian had the Pantsir and were totally unchecked for 2-3 years with no one even close and now after just one patch cycle they will again be like 2-3 more effective than western AA systems.
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That’s why I suggested, instead of BUK-M3 (2 launchers and 1 radar) - Pantsir SM (2 TBM and 1 SM)
how is the buk m3 2-3 times more effective than the samp/t ? 2 NATO nations are getting this. 16 missiles vs 12 missiles. but the buk m3 gets 2-3 lives. idk which is more balanced buk m3 with 24 missiles + 1 life or 12 missiles + 2-3 lives.
12+6+radar (2 lives and even more rockets)