AJS37, slowly pitches down in flight manual, stabilises like the jag with damping.
Honestly stabilises better than jag.
             
            
              
            
                
           
          
            
              
                Morvran  
              
                  
                    January 26, 2024,  5:34am
                   
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              Yeah, jag feels like it needs 0.1% more
             
            
              
            
                
           
          
            
            
              Loathe as I am to say it, the 16C and the AJS37 are the best ones I’ve found.
Actually, Gripen A is a perfect example of it. Without damping, pitches down. With Damping, immediately stabilises.
             
            
              
            
                
           
          
            
              
                Morvran  
              
                  
                    January 26, 2024,  5:43am
                   
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              Just had a “wait a fricking moment” thought.
One aircraft we havent tested yet.
Tornado F3. Does it as well. No wonder I struggle so much with “flying low defeat R-27ERs”. Its a pain in the arse to keep at a steady height, especially at low alt.
             
            
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              We are both very sharp individuals apparently. Found a few other than Tornado tho.
             
            
              
            
                
           
          
            
              
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                    January 26, 2024,  2:53pm
                   
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              To follow on from this I’d also added this to the report;
Spoiler 
(video is the RAF Typhoon take off with BOL IR being dispensed)
From this video we can make out the individual packets;
Start of the release of 3 packets
First packet develops
 
             
            
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Glad to see my 6 years in England didn’t give me the wrong impression that British people are all obnoxious and arrogant. Or should we hear about the definitely not overrated foxhunter radar again?
 
 
Great job completely debunking yourself.
You’re aware the F-15s didn’t/aren’t going up? They are staying at 12.3, despite having a fantastic flight model and having 9Ms.
             
            
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You see the argument that had with US main
             
            
              
            
                
           
          
            
            
              
 warthogboy09:
 
F-15A models flew in the US until 2006. In that time they received the flare mod, AND the BOL mod which it is currently missing. It received multiple iterations of APG-63 radar, namely the PSP upgrade giving it TWS for having the flare mod, but even the current -63 is a fraction of its capability. It’s also missing HMD through the VTAS program which it trialed. It’s a shadow of what it could be because of Dev decisions, not any reality. But go ahead and whine on your ‘muh minor nations’ soapbox, completely ignoring the F-15 benefits 2 minor nations.
 
 
Tornado
             
            
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              Sorry mate, Swedish documents say the BOL pods were for the F15C which isn’t in game
             
            
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              Don’t forget the FGR2 missing 9Ls, I know there are many planes missing missiles or other armament in the tech tree but the 9G to 9L is the biggest jump out of all of them
             
            
              
            
                
           
          
            
              
                Morvran  
              
                  
                    January 27, 2024,  4:56pm
                   
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              It’s missing quite a bit unfortunately. All British jets are.
Whilst 9Ls have basically been hard denied by gaijin for “reasons” it could get AGM-12s and wing mounted tanks
             
            
              
            
                
           
          
            
            
              Fuck it, all aspect SRAAM’s were advertised. Better than nothing, take 2 9G’s and 2 SRAAM’s.
             
            
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                Morvran  
              
                  
                    January 27, 2024,  8:48pm
                   
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              Those would be awesome for so many jets. Jaguars too
             
            
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              Assuming they were put in properly. Which is a big ask for British stuff.
             
            
              
            
                
           
          
            
              
                Morvran  
              
                  
                    January 27, 2024,  8:59pm
                   
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              Jag is likely, but no solid proof as of yet. But they certainly need an A2A buff but less than 9Ls
             
            
              
            
                
           
          
            
            
              Or they could give us a second jag with better kit across the board and an actually well done model.
But aside from that, yea. Something’s needed.
             
            
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              Until the AMX goes up I honestly thing the Jag could very much get 9L’s and be 10.3.
AMX has (arguably) better FM, more LGB’s, and 2 9L’s. Meanwhile you are barely subsonic with not very good turn but good AOA in fairness.
However 4 SRAAM’s with the true all-aspect, full 2KM range would be fantastic and pretty much perfect for balance IMO.
             
            
              
            
                
           
          
            
              
                Morvran  
              
                  
                    January 27, 2024,  9:15pm
                   
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              Yeah, that would be so good.
             
            
              
            
                
           
          
            
              
                Morvran  
              
                  
                    January 27, 2024,  9:16pm
                   
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              Yeah, they really would. Especially as they would have virtually no flare resistance I think. So would be easy to defeat by anyone paying attention
And yeah 9Ls would probably be fine at this point. Either that or Jag Gr1A needs to go down to 10.0