Or any of the functionalities it had in reality. MAWS, whatever the work around the brits were fucking around with to find things other than a radar (Can’t remember the details, not entirely sure where I read about it either, but seemed helpful if it did exxist). Harrier is my favourite plane other than Gripen, but it has always been a bit shafted.
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That bad the nerf
Yet to go into another match to see if it’s consistently that bad, but I was pulling and throwing out cms when the 24 hit me so seems like it.
so one needs to test it see how bad they are
Yeah MAWS would be a game changer for the Gr7. Still annoyed that it still hasnt come yet.
Yeah, I like the Harrier too. Looking forward to the Sea Harrier FA2 but I fear the state it will be in
Don’t really have any mates at toptier who can help me test it, so going to need to have someone else tag in for that.
That’s my worry as well. I really would like the sea harrier, probably become my most played aircraft, but somehow doubt its going to be any good with how they treat minor nation aircraft compared to major.
well only if some one had the Gr7 and Gripen and can test using russian missiles
Spoiler
me
I’ve the Gripen and Gr7, and Russian missiles, so want me to ping an inv?
same as well can do
Are you using full mass of 26mm catridge?
So yeah. R24Ts will be flared off with reinforced if you throw out a few of them, but with mixed 24T tracks harrier pretty well, seems more good luck that you don’t get hit by it than anything else, as it resumed tracking harrier after being slightly distracted by the mixed CMs.
So in short, harrier’s either fucked by SARHs, or fucked by IRs.
I wonder if the BOL nerf was mainly a balancing decision to nerf the Gripen considering there was no known report about this change.
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A gripen already underperforming compared to how it should be.
Almost certainly. Gripen has been the main aircraft complained about and when you consider that F-15 and Su-27 lack BOL. Its an easy target to balance them,
(especially when you consider that the standard tactic in ARB seems to be to run flare only and just continuously drop flares throughout a match)
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Underperforming or not, doesn’t change the fact that right now the gripen is the best RB plane and by far the best SB plane from what I heard, granted I don’t play SB myself. The plane gets stats I thought impossible to attain in top tier flying solo. I hope it gets reverted though as honestly the only way to have fun in top tier is to use the gripen imo.
Eh, not exactly the best. It’s used by people who had to deal with their best being a tornado/harrier or a viggen.
Give those nations an actually decently competitive option and it will perform far and away better than anything else. It should be made accurate to reality, as should the su 27. I am not saying it is bad. As it is, it is quite good. But it is not as good as it ought to be.
Only saying this given the cries of realism from the devs and others associated with the project. Doesn’t really work out when an F15’s performing better than it ought to, and the competitors got shafted to make it comparable.
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SB main here so…
Eh… Thats complicated…
In FM, yes, its probably the best.
The Aim-9M being smokeless make them very hard to spot and no RWR launch warnings either
The large CM count means you can be reasonably safe from incoming missiles.
The cockpit is good with good visibility and fairly good HUD (far better than something like the Tornado F3 which is lacking a lot of symology)
Now where it gets a tad complicated.
The Radar is a total mess, and is rather buggy (though I think I was getting the same thing in the Tornado F3 in a short match the other day, so maybe its a “radar” issue and not a “Gripen” issue. With the need to ID targets via radar IFF, this is HIGHLY problematic. Actually putting me off playing the Gripen currently because im fnding it that annoying. (its also placeholder though… so… we’ll have to see if/when its finished)
The Lack of BVR is somewhat felt too. How much BVR is useful in top tier is a hotly debated topic though I think having 10.7 BVR missiles (Phantom FGR2/FG1 are 10.7) is kinda insane though and cannot even hope to compete.
Whilst the Aim-9M are good in some situations, they are lacking in a few, like lock range. They really dont like locking on past about 2km in a head-on. Should be more like 14km. (Community Bug Reporting System). So with the right adjustments they could compensate for the lack of effective BVR.
I havent really properly flown the Gripen C yet (in part because of the radar issues and in part because its not really na aircraft I have massive interest in) but its certainly solid. Though rarely played in comparison to US and USSR aircraft. But that might change as more people farm them out, though Sweden and Britain air will probabkly remain rather under-played for quite a while.
This too. Anyone use to 11.3 vs 12/12.3 (i.e Britain and Sweden for the whole of 2023) is naturally going to be better in a 12.7 vs 12.7s
The IFF is generally a British thing from my experience in Sim recently. Could pretty reliable ID things with IFF using the Su 39. Confirmed a few kills and they were all of the other team. The BVR issue is quite problematic due to the whole 6 R27 situation, in my personal opinion. But I mainly play ground attack subsonic aircraft, and haven’t taken the Gripen out for the Swedes on account of radar issues that seem to be parallel with Britain.
Though IFF could also just be Russian stuff working the best, like usual, for no bloody reason.
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