British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

Indeed, though just a consequence of Sweden I think.

Just did an ARB game and got over half the amount I got in the whole NE game…

Tbh, NE economy is also designed almsot entirely around using nukes. Did a game in the GR4 and didnt drop one nuke, and then the next game drop 2-3 nukes and the rewards at the end of it were more than double the game without

I dropped 3 nukes 😵‍💫

Ah… then yeah, that sucks

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It does.

It does not. This has been a long documented problem.

Works perfectly fine for me

They say ALARM can only be available on vehicles at 12.0+ BR. So when will the ALARM for GR7, FGR4 and F3 late be released?

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ALARM for the GR1 would make it so much worse given the BR rise that would no doubt come with it.

Yeah, that’s why they gave AS37 to the GR1. I hope they add ALARM for the GR7

I dont see how 3-4 would increase its BR past 11.7 where our entire ground line up is given the Tornado RET8 has 4x AGM-88A at that BR already, alongside a better defensive kit, engines, and overall CAS performance.

But its time they come up with a different method of balancing aircraft in GRB that doesnt involve artificially nerfing them in every gamemode.

So no reason why a Tornado GR1 with ALARM would be an issue in NE.

Even moving to 11.7 is extremely hurtful given that would allow it face the strongest SAMs in the game in GRB.

Getting garbage ALARM in return for a BR nerf is not a good trade.

If you are using the Tornado GR1 at 11.7 anyway, does it matter?

Would rather have an 11.7 aircraft at 11.7 , than a 11.3 one

Don’t use it at 11.7?

Absolutely not worth spawning with the SAMs you face at that point.

I know you use 10.3/10.7 light tanks to force it into 11.3 matches, but most dont, and even at 11.3 you are facing OP stuff at 12.0 anyway, like the Pantsir, so its not like its actually changing much.

At the moment , I just play the Jaguar GR1A at 10.3 because it performs 100x better than the Tornado GR1 does at 11.3 relatively speaking.

and again. Stupid that you have 0 usable ARM in NE just because gaijin want to keep it at 11.3 in GRB

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At the moment , I just play the Jaguar GR1A at 10.3 because it performs 100x better than the Tornado GR1 does at 11.3 relatively speaking.

Massive disagree.
2 vs 4 munitions per sortie
laser guided vs FnF
sortie cycle time massively favours the GR1

I’ve got just shy of a 7K/D in the GR1 and most of my deaths were from getting PGMs in ARB. Pantsirs can be problematic but they’re nothing compared to trying to fly against a pantsir SMSV or IRIS TLM.

GR4 is woefully inept at 12.3 and even with 9 ALARM you won’t be landing even one of them against an aware SM-SV player even if you ripple launch all 9 of them at them.

I would be a bit more sympathetic towards asking for ALARM to be given to the GR1 if it wasn’t such a terrible ARM for GRB.

But fighting 2S6s and OSAs and not Pantsirs

and again, the main reason I want them is not GRB but NE. Getting fed up of aircraft being artificially nerfed for a gamemode that I barely ever play, espeically with a gamemode actually meant for ground attackers being added.

But fighting 2S6s and OSAs and not Pantsirs

Which is mostly what the GR1 fights at 11.3 because it cannot see 12.7. As soon as you go to 11.7 you are in blackhole range of top tier GRB line-up and you get significantly more uptiers than downtiers compared to 11.3.

Except for the fact that you have uptier your entire 10.3 /10.7 lineup to 11.3 to exploit that fact, and even then, the moment you get a 12.0 uptier, which is probably quite common, you are DOA.

Id still rather stick to 10.3 lineup than an 11.3

and Id still want ALARM for NE

Except for the fact that you have uptier your entire 10.3 /10.7 lineup to 11.3 to exploit that fact, and even then, the moment you get a 12.0 uptier, which is probably quite common, you are DOA.

Or you just bring the ajax and if you’re at all competent you will get enough SP to spawn the GR1 every match, after that if you’re playing right you’re not going to be dying so don’t need anything else.