British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

I will be honest with you. This is the only article that i can find that states that, and there are too much simmilarities to Cr2 turret. It just werid to me to take a turret of another tank and remake it so it is a copy of another tank turret.


Cutout in the commander coupola. A space between the gunner sight and the com coupola, tha the usual sight would take. Position of smaller periscopes, loader hatch. Boxes at the back of the turret, inside layout. It all would be just weird.

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Not forgetting the clip only had room for 6 rounds, explains why the gun is slightly different and why they re-engineered the leopard turret to make everything fit. Cost effective solution tbh.

Clip only had 6 rounds as they only touched left back of the hull and left the hull alone. The funds were limited as it was just a test to see if it fits, not new tank like here. Also i think that taking a Leo2 turret and shaping it outside and inside to match Cr2 is a more costly proces.
No i am not writing to RBSL to confirm/deny it.
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In November 2020, the ARTEC consortium, jointly owned by Rheinmetall and Krauss-Maffei Wegman (KMW), announced that it had awarded two separate subcontracts to RBSL and WFEL respectively for the local production and assembly of over 500 Boxer armoured vehicle for the UK.
Krauss-Maffei manufacture the leopard 2 so if you was looking for a cost effective upgrade it would make sense that they’d edit an existing and available turret hull. Might see more information over time. For a prototype concept it’s not exactly out of the ordinary to test if it’ll work.

They already tried the Leo hull with Vic Mk.7 and german government got VERY mad about it. Also UK did not wanted a other country tank to replace Cr2. Pride morale and all the other things

During a time where Germany didn’t want its vehicles to be used in an aggressive combat situation, there was political implications because of that. However the recent Ukraine war changed that the moment Germany supplied them.

Yea, that was a surprise for ma that they did, but remember that LEP came in 2019. I also posted a photo somewhere of a naked LEP turret, i will see if i can find it.
Edit it is a test rig, but



Cr2ish to me
Well. All i know makes me belive that it is a Cr2 turret. Sadly Leo2 mod just doesent add up for me.

Im stealing that photo for future use. I left some tea in the cabinet as a compensation.

Personally to me it makes sense from a business pov, the machines already exist to create the rear section of the turret, the blast door, blow out roof panel, turret infrastructure for cables etc already accounted for, all that would be required is to engineer the front section to accept the gun you already mount and the different shaped armour packs. 40% of the turret is already worked out, you’ve just gotta weld it all together once complete.


The interior looks nothing like a Leo turret tho. Leo does not have angled armor plates inside, the breach area looks just 1:1 Chally 2

So here’s a post i came across whilst looking also mentioned the challenger 3 turret is based on the leopard 2.the twitter post was from a Defence industry analyst & consultant specialising in Land Warfare. Former British Army infantry officer.

https://twitter.com/nicholadrummond/status/1398952349385822208?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1398952349385822208|twgr^03a021bc24aab79681763fdd1f9cbc0c62b62878|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fnicholadrummond%2Fstatus%2F1398952349385822208
https://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/topic/1611-britons-are-in-trouble/page/31/

Yes I’m aware that’s why it says Although externally the new turret looks similar to Challenger 2’s existing one, Rheinmetall has taken an existing Leopard 2 turret and comprehensively re-engineered it.

The thing is he is talking about Rheinmetalls Revolution turret. And Revolution is this thing here:


We also don’t know if he is speaking about the production Chally 3 which we still don’t have a picture of or the TD

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I’m talking about the challenger 3 in game

Yes I know, but we don’t know if you’re sources do that.

Obviously those sources are going to be classified, believe it or not i think we’re at the stage in the game where alot of information is going to start being based on speculation, I’m just going by the information I’ve found given the ammunition storage position, blast door and potentially blowout roof panel

Thought we have settled onto side blow out Panels since the roof has bolts

The 2a4 roof panel has bolts?
Another point that could potentially be more evidence of a leopard turret is that it can be fitted to allied tanks stated here
https://www.army.mod.uk/news-and-events/news/2023/02/challenger-3-hits-milestone-ahead-of-schedule/

  • a turret that can be fitted to the tanks of allies and global partners
    If ir shared the turret ring it’d be a complete possibility.

The Chally 3 TD roof

Yeh what I’m saying is they both have roof bolts in a similar area