Pretty much, like the second Gulf war, the Tornado crews referred to it as “recreational bombing”.
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Is there any reason why the Phantom’s couldn’t use the SuperTEMP? Was it a physical issue like the size of was it the MoD doing MoD things?
A it didn’t exist, B the Frazier ejection mounts may not have been catered for.
No I think the Phantom’s and SuperTEMP’s existed.
I think he means the Phantoms were withdrawn from service right as SuperTEMP was introduced.
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SuperTEMP was put into service in 1988 and the FG.1 and FGR.2 was put out of service in 1990 and 1992 respectively. The timeframe is there but I understand that there would be some issues.
Oops yes you are right, I’m thinking of its first deployment (Gulf). The TEMP modifications for the TEL probably resulted in the incompatibility with the old Phantoms.
Also if it saved a tenner the MOD wouldn’t do it haha. The unbelievable levels of cheaping out are impressive.
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I doubt SuperTEMP was ever used by Phantoms. The RAF would have required a whole bunch of trials in order to clear it for use on the Phantoms, and with them due to be withdrawn very soon after SuperTEMP became available I doubt they would consider it worth the time, money, and hassle
Non starter when it comes to the MOD.
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We can get a new thing/can make a old thing work/better
MoD:cool lets do it
It requires money
MoD:You know what, the thing we have will be enough and will work for 10 years so no need to do so.
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Or in the case of buying stinger to replace Blowpipe, one of the reasons was that it was not done was it would reduce confidence troops had in Blowpipe…
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Story of the entire British military since 1945.
Thanks labour
Yeah that was my point
I think the real issues with Blowpipe began was from the point that it was decided to call it Blowpipe. A primitive ranged weapon is hardly something that inspires confidence when up against jets…
One of the plus point they listed in favour of not buying the Stinger was that Blowpipe was “Optimized for head on attack” which should read as “can only engage successfully in head on attack” haha.
Clearly they all knew it was utterly hopeless but due to reasons of economics (not wanting to lose the manufacturing capability) they kept it, even though it was as said utterly hopeless.
Lol, that’s some politking speak if I’ve ever heard it. “How can we spin this in a way that makes it seem like an advantage?”
I heard that Stinger was even cheaper than Blowpipe…
A) They had confidence to begin with?
B) Train them to ID targets?
C) I mean don’t all systems need their own training?
D) Straight up lying to make Blowpipe sound better
E) Fair enough, if this was a stinger without IRCCM.
F) So the solution to having an effective MANPAD is to not buy one and stick with the useless mess that was Blowpipe.
Also (7.) More concerned about how it would look than how good the system was.
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Does anyone have any of these books?
“Naval Weapons of World War Two” by John Campbell
“Run the Gauntlet: The Channel Dash 1942” by Ken Ford
“From Fancy to Stingray: British Torpedoes since 1945” article by Antony Preston in “Warships Volume V”
Also @Gunjob I know it’s late but could you take a look at this?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/mGuD9vLkiuLb I don’t have any sources about the American bombs and rockets but the torpedoes would be a nice addition. Maybe we could bring it up to rank III again.
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