British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

yeah, was dogfighting an XP-55 and VERY slowly winning until i busted one of my flaps off (the mosquito really doesn’t like that, you yaw so much and pitch above critical AoA as a result)

The Mosquitos in general seem to have some yaw issues, they like to wobble a lot at lower speeds which can make getting shots off in dogfights difficult. I’ve also found that if one engine dies, the other engine is powerful enough to send you into a flatspin if you WEP, maybe just a testiment to the merlin’s power lol

I just checked the game files and the two new British Mosquitos lack the advanced fuel weight (where fuel weight is modelled based of fuel tank position) that all other Mosquitos have (even the new Swedish ones). This seems to give the new Brit ones much better center of mass and therefore flight performance (Roll control especially)

Also, the TR.33 dosen’t have the dynamic weight modelled for the Uncle Tom rockets, so having an uneven loadout (after firing one off) dosen’t effect your flight performance like it does with the other mosquitos

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theres some concerning Challenger 2 Armour Bugs Right now

25mm SAP/HEI killing Driver and Spall liner by hitting the underside of the turret cheek (This also occurs with 37mm M.Gr.18 of the Ostwind) - Assumed this is weird overpressure

14.5mm IAI Spalling and killing Driver + spall liner side on

12.7mm IAI pens the LFP of a Challenger 2 near the armour plug on the left

and just straight up penning the turret ring with 14.5

Further Breakdown of the issues

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  • Underside of Turret Cheek - overpressure Driver
    • 25mm HE-I / SAPHEI-T (LAV/Stormer)
    • 37mm M.Gr.18 (Ostwind)

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  • Turret Ring - damaging turret components and crew
    • 12.7mm IAI (Russian 12.7mm)
    • 14.5mm IAI (KPVT) + possibly AP(C)I-T

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  • Side near Fuel Tank + around Driver’s port - Damage Driver + spall liner
    • 14.5mm IAI (KPVT)
    • Possibly 25mm SAP/HEI

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  • Lower Front Plate hole only seem to happen while moving (not just backwards like a recently written bug report would suggest) - Spall Liner and killing driver
    • 12.7mm IAI (Russian 12.7mm)
    • possibly 14.5mm IAI

need to finish more testing before drafting some bug reports, should be ready by later today, until then i’ll write one about the CH2 Vert + Horizontal drive clipping through the spall liner
is now written: Community Bug Reporting System

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What mosquito in british TT is best for an air to air role? Just got the NF but having to stock grind it currently and not enjoying it as much as the FB but thats most likely because the FB is spaded. Also how do i read the radar of the NF?

the NF is the best by far for A2A, very light, good turn, and good climbrate

and the radar, just don’t bother, you’re not getting any useful info from it

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I was wondering how comes the NF 2 is the slowest mosquito according to the stat card and yet it’s the lightest?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/oUKPJBBvm1pq
Wrote the bug report on the whole 14.5mm, 25mm, 30mm and 37mm over pressuring the driver

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The stat cards all all bs

The Climbrate listed for the NF.2 is like 8.5 m/s on the statcard but I was getting more like 18.5 m/s ingame.

The top speeds, turn times, climb rates etc… are all wrong.

Does somebody has ADEN 30mm cannon rounds or gun itself documents?

I would like to check it because have heard they never used tracers irl.

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Im sure this has been posted in the thread before, but here is the Ammo table for the 30mm ADEN/DEFA guns in the mid to late 70s.

I also found this:
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And as you can see it has tracers. This is on the mk4, mk5 & mk6. All Sea Harriers (FRS.1(e), FRS.1 and FA2), and the GR.1 and GR.3 use the ADEN Mk.4 (Via the war thunder wiki).

So basically, they could, but whether they chose to or not is a completely different question.
I will look into this further to see if I can find some sort of updated table for the 30mm, but this is what i got in roughly 30 minutes of looking

Sources if anyone wants to critique:

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30mm ADEN - DEFA Ammunition Family Chart, Circa Mid to Late 1970s - General Ammunition Discussion - International Ammunition Association Web Forum
Aden 30 MK4 MK5 MK6 | PDF | Cannon | Gun Barrel

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Is there any docs that published before 1970s?

IIRC, they started to use ADEN since 1950s.

Yes, they started using the ADENs in '54 with the hunters I found a document on Hunter Armament (Linked below) and on a table it says it has a tracer, However, this table is from the 1990s. Looking at gun cams on the glorious site known as Youtube, during live fire exercises I cannot see any tracer fire. I am unable to find any document specifically for the ADEN from the 50s or 60s, but i could just be missing it

Said document:

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Vol 2. Part 3 - Hunter Weapons 103111 | PDF | Cartridge (Firearms) | Gun Barrel

Anyone finding the naval mossie very unstable in sim? The other mossies are fine.

FV214 Conqueror should not have a Stabiliser

a person is pointing a gun at a white cat in a dark room .

(At least the FV4202 might finally get a buddy at 7.3)

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Why the fuck would someone report that!?

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because it doesn’t have a stabiliser IRL, only a system to prevent the gun digging into the dirt while mobile

Can’t be biased when bug reporting sadly, I see thing wrong, rectify thing wrong

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It will stay at its BR, worse still, they’ll make it so the gun can’t be moved while the tank is moving, cherry on top, if a russian vehicle in game has a feature it did not have IRL, any report mentioning such will be ignored “not a bug”.

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it wouldn’t, look at the Conway (it is overtiered imo but still)

Unlikely, unless the loss of a stab would make it too bad for 7.3 with current reload, but they wish to keep it at a higher BR than Conway

its fine lol, I try to link related reports at the bottom of my reports when applicable

they don’t model limitations such as that, as quite a few platforms would not be able to train their gun on the move due to the sheer weight and size of Their guns (FV4005 for example), or some that would need to deploy recoil ploughs before firing (M55, FV4005, Pantsir, etc)

the issue with the report is that the Conq had no system for stabilisation that could be used for fire control, just the trim-stab which stopped the barrel from roleplaying as a tree, and that system itself was only Vertical between elevations of +1 and +15 degrees, and absolutely had nothing for the horizontal, but in game we have a full stabiliser that works for both vertical and horizontal, allowing us to fire on the move with impunity and in Negative gun elevations, where this was absolutely not possible IRL

I believe the NF and F II have a better engine than they should have. The statcard values are probably manually entered and based on performance figures or something.