Its not so much that its erroneous, its that gaijin used to do multiple forms of proxy/time variable fusing but it was 1) overly complicated, 2) confusing for a large number of players and 3) just annoying to try to learn each and every type and having to learn ranging them properly along with being very hard to do for many.
Mostly its the “old gang” players that would remember it from I think heck, over 7-8 years ago now when it was being done that way? I remember it kind of and it was truly a pain in the backside. If you want a slight, SLIGHT and I do mean slight example of the annoyance, you should take a tank into a test room with another player, get them in a heli, load up a HE-VT, lase the heli and fire and see how the round often explodes too early. Take that annoyance and bump it up 10 fold.
(edit: Heck, IIRC there was even a time where on certain systems like german 88mm TDs where if you tried to use the ranging system to zero out to say, 800m with a HE round the round would detonate at 800m, so you couldnt snipe open tops with HE very well because if the target was just beyond it, it would pre-detonate, forcing you to aim from zero and raise the gun… for those of us who enjoy using our scroll for aiming range… this was pain)
Thus, gaijin converted all proxy/time fusing to be the same automated system of when it gets into range of an enemy (and then, ground added too later when beyond 300m safe zone), as if the crew programmed the munition to do exactly what people are trying to make it do (because IRL crews tend to be trained to do such things).
This has generally been heavily approved of by the community as a whole and seen as “a good and fine improvement” even if unrealistic in part. It also made it way easier to learn to dodge it and ofc, made it way more balanced as everyone had something that was generally the same and no single country would 1) be left out or 2) would have a massive advantage.
L15’s hardly modern. It was introduced in the late 70s so is 40-50 years old. Probably wouldn’t have been added for the UK if Japan didn’t already have it for Type 99
I think their problem with implementing a lot of other more modern 155mm shells for 52/55 calibre guns is that they’re base bleed, so don’t have normal shell ballistics
Germany should have DM111 though if it’s still being used with PzH2000 - it’s just German-made L15
Well more modwrn then m107 at least.
Just confuses mebthatbthe spgs around the same br range /modernity have such different munition choices. When they all effectively used the same
I know dev server etc, but I assume the ready rack reload etc for the GBT 155 is too high? Isnt it supposed to have a ready rack rof of like 6 seconds to reload or something for the first couple of rounds?
Currently feels like 10 second reload for the ready rack and even sloooower after that…
edit: did a timer, 13 seconds on a basic crew, 18 seconds after your initial ready rack on a stock crew… seems a tad higher then the 3 round burst in 13 seconds and 6rpm on the document…
And as I point out there, arguably the worst SPG of its BR range by a chunky margin simply due to the RoF (forget having no autoloader too ofc).
example chart from my thread
bkan - 3.2 seconds autoloading. br 6.7 (though limited angles to fire, fair)
auf1 - 7.5 autoloading. br 7.0
type 99 - 7.5 autoloading, br 7.3
2S19M2 - 6 seconds autoloading, BR 7.3
2s19M1 - 7.5 seconds autoloading, BR 7.0
GBT 155 - 13 seconds non autoloading stock, 18 seconds non autoloading (so can be worse as crew die…) BR 7.0
So far no comments, so I assume its going to fall down the cracks but it would be nice for chaps to help bump it up to get noticed by gaijin and maybe make it more viable. Even with the Vickers documented rates of fire it would still arguably be “worst in class” for its BR in terms of firepower, but it would at least not be so far behind the others.
As for bug reporting, someone else already did, “not a bug, RoF is a balancing factor” and “burst fire has more involved” etc etc.
I actually had hopes from the dev stream where they mentioned it having better than this by a lot, and IIRC the shot time they showed it… it did.
I also had hopes it being premium would mean gaijin would give it a good nudge… sigh.
I am legit depression mode over it, this is a vehicle I have asked for and hoped would come since gaijin first added the vickers mk1 and 3 to the game, its the 2nd main SPG I have been hoping for (the 1st being Abbot).
Im just, I am sad.
I just hope we can get enough commentary on the thread to get gaijin to notice and go “hang on, it is a bit silly like this”.
I mean, even with the vickers numbers, it would still be worse then the rest… is it really too much to ask for those stats? xD
Im convinced that they use the “conflicting information” excuse for anything they know is wrong but dont want to change for whatever reason. They used the same excuse for not fixing BOL
