British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

What should it be?

ASRAAM should be greater than Mach 4.

CAMM wont have the benefit of thinner air or starting speed. But I think it would fair to assume it could be higher than Mach 3, especially CAMM-ER.

Would be tricky to prove for CAMM, but might be worth a try

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Arabel is trash, but not that trash

https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_pdf.cfm?DACH_RECNO=1023

70 km against aircrafts
20 km against missiles

It will still be meh because of the refresh rate on non engaged targets and multipath though

That would make sense, I couldnt work out how they can balance 120km ARH missiles vs things like IRIS-T SLE, but if the radar heavily mitigates it, then that makes sense. Especially if they do MP realistically on SAMs

Where did you see this?

Gzsabis list came out

Damn how come the UK isn’t getting the AH-64E?

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I don’t know why you’re asking me

Yeah well 70 is still a lot

Unfortunately i think we are in the good old power creep spiral again (Rafale F3R shenanigans again)
CAMM ER seems a bit more reasonable, but still good.

One could argue the UK and Italy deserved it at least X)

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I genuinely find it a good break that Italy finally has the meta spaa

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Yeah, though munition interception only being 20km helps offset that a bit too.

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70 km is only against large aircraft. It is 35-45 km against fighter / ground attack aircraft sized targets (according to two primary sources shown in the French discord).

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welp

got to see it on the bright side i suppose

Less wasted shots at least X)

(Seems to be the reverse of IRIS-T and its 200+ km range radar for 40km missiles, funnily enough)

Frothing at the mouth for some CAMM-ER shenanigans

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Do we know what’s actually changing with it?

Not yet known

Speculating range and maybe all aspect shinanigans
Possibly a few other bits

Wouldn’t add anything for us anyway. We have longbow hellfires on the AH MK.1 and the 64e only adds weaponry that we wouldn’t get anyway (Brimstone 2 MMW or unfortunately JAGM).

Brimstone 2 would certainly be a better choice than the hellfires even in SAL only mode.

I imagine the major difference for the US AH-64E over the AH-64D is going to be the presence of CIRCM. We’re buying CIRCM for Chinook and have an alternate Leonardo-built system in the works for other aircraft, but I don’t think either has been floated for the AAC’s Apaches yet.
A SAL-only AGM-179A in the manner we got Brimstone, isn’t really going to be any different from Hellfire. So for a UK AH-64E, the only noticible difference from the WAH-64D would be Arrowhead M-TADS/M-PNVS, and the loss of Starstreak

The AAQ-45(V), or something else? I’m pretty sure that the AAQ-24(V) was tested by the UK at some point.

The aforementioned AAQ-45(V) serves as a drop in replacement for the existing AAR-47(V)2, UV MAWS, so it shouldn’t be that complex to introduce to the AH-64’s as the Blisters where they are mounted are already molded so there is no need for fabrication to be done.

The Major difference is that the Warhead should have a better fragmentation pattern, and a proximity fuse(Height of Burst). so a slight bump in performance against Aircraft and light armor.

The Army is continuing to develop software enhancements to improve height-of-burst lethality