Yeah I always go for weak spots anyways on those tanks to keep my aiming in check, as I play many different tiers and using many different pieces of ammo so it’s always the best to default to weak spots.
You can’t go through Relikt so only those two have safe UFPs.
Seems many people just want to point and click now adays.
As i cry in my minor nations with barely over 300 angle pen vs the m829a2 at over 360
Ammo and breach shots are usually the way to go in my experience.
So only two russian tanks which sacrifice, mobility, reload and depression etc can survive a hit by the abrams, which 4 TT variants have the round and 1 premium.
Who care bro , I can’t UFP them , meaning they are OP !!!
Sometime the driver eats the whole shell.
Just like the Merkava’s bug report, it been accepted for 2 years now it doesn’t mean it will get implemented, Gaijin do whatever they want just like the KH38MT zero sources to prove its existence but they still went ahead and added it to the game even though its gamebreaking.
I’ve shot countless T80s from the side and i’ve noticed that the fuel tank doesn’t detonate anymore, infact it prevents more spall to hit he ammo.
When i play at 11.3 using the M1A1,IPM1,F5E, most of the time i play at Top Tier so when i add the HC to my lineup it’s guaranteed you going to play against T90M,Pantsir,SU30SM.
Maybe you did not check the reddit video i posted to back my claim, the HC’s turret ring is much stronger than the one on the M1A2, so the point of grinding past the HC is pointless unless they fix the bug.
Try to grind for the SEPV1,V2 they’re garbage, as i said several times the best tank in the US is the M1A1 paired with the HSTVL.
No hull improvements starting from the base M1, weaker turret ring, anything can lolpen you, SEPV1,V2 has higher profile and can be easily killed behind cover using HE, turret cheeks can be penetrated now, sit at higher BR but the thing that makes it sit there is the dart, remove it and it’s literally weaker than the base M1.
I literally eat them for dinner in a daily basis, but yeah you can’t just turn around and shoot at whatever and it will be guaranteed kill or disabling the tank like it happens with the Abrams, you gotta aim for certain weakspots and they can be tricky.
Well that’s your opinion, now most of the time i play Israel because i hate the feeling of being handicapped to the smallest threat.
And that happens with every tree.
Not exclusively Russia, that my friend is the crew level situation which is a genuine problem with the game
Completely ignoring the other bug reports thaf have been acted on and the merkava bug report ? What one specifically cause they changed a few things on them a year or so ago.
On the subject of the KH38 that is for another thread in which we agree it should be removed, alongside the likes of the F16AJ
Ancedotal evidence, fuel tanks as per data mines and announcement years ago rely on a certain amount of rng
And the m1a1 HC realistically beats the t90m in capabilities other than sheer armour values.
So whats your point?
Show me a bug report and numerical differences not a reddit video as evidence.
As well as this the abrams are in different spots, at different angles its hardly conclusive, its.not conducted on flat ground.
Meanwhile the statement i made as well was saying the tanks are identical bar the thermal quality and commander sights is proven both in game and with the stats of the vehicles themselves.
Im gonna buy the sep now just to prove its not garbage
The M1a1 is not the samw br as the hstvl last i checked hstvl is 11.7 NOT 11.3 so you’re point here is senseless.
What tank pens a sep V2 turret cheeks other than a losat?
The turret cheeks on the sep V2 are identical numerically in game to the M1a2
The hulls also do improve after the m1 at 10.7 last i was aware however i could be mistaken.
The aiming for weakspots is not tricky at all.
You can lol pen every russian tank bar the t90m and t80bvm which is hilarious you think otherwise.
Other than the odd Volumetric bs which is needing addressed across every br range, your round isn’t likely to do nothing.
As well as a 5 second reload, the only thing t80s have over the abrams is armour.
One thing.
I play china more so than anytning now as i play for fun not to sit scrawling what top tier is unnoticeably better than the other.
Then we got real issues with minor nations getting dogged on by all of the major 3 trees
Just remember that 11.7 US line up got top tier shell and can literally point and click the T80U. Superior in literally everything beside armour. And that clearly not enough
Oh im aware, i use it 😂😂
The only thing they changed is nerfing the Merkava LIC because it was “Overperforming” and they bumped its BR to 12.0
Like what? The armor didn’t change a bit, they massacred the new Namer and added 4 tons to it with no armor additions at all.
I just pointed out the double standards.
Like what? Armor is what matters at Top Tier, that’s why Swedish tanks are the best in the game.
Buddy go ahead and spawn few Abrams variants and test it by yourself or play few battles with the M1A2 and try to get your turret ring shot at, and try the same thing with the base M1.
Thermal wouldn’t matter if you handicapped by the smallest thread possible.
HSTV-L can be used at 11.7 against premiums such as the T80U-E1, Type 90 Fuji…etc
Did you even check what i said that makes it garbage? Anyways enjoy the suffering.
DM53,3BM60 at some angles.
You’re indeed mistaken, the hull did not improve at all.
They also sit at the same BR with weaker turret ring.
All i’m trying to say that any Abrams after the HC is pure garbage, i’ve removed my SEPV2 from the lineup and added the HC and i’ve seen a huge improvement in my survivability.
You act like Armor isn’t the most significant thing you can have at Top Tier, the idea to grind for a tank that sits at a higher BR is getting better armor, but this can’t be said after grinding for 3 useless tanks that are identical and are super weak.
Me when armour is the most important thing on top tier (US team have worse WR than Brit player)
Rage baiting for a living, get a life?
They moved the two rounds on teh floor as well last I checked. which is a massive boon to them.
Stated above.
No you are derailing a thread with it.
No the 2A7’s are tehcnically the best in game as they have the best combo of armour and firepower.
Strv122’s are a strong second or tied top though depending who’m you ask.
Now onto the comparrison of M1A1 VS T90M
firepower - M1A1 wins. Better round, higher fire rate.
mobility - M1A1 wins dont even have to write up why.
Armour - T90M wins this as the relic saves it.
survivability - abrams is more likely to survive a penetrating shot. (follow up shot debatable depending who is shooting it)
profile - the T90M has the same issue you complained about with the sep, has a massive turret pillar on the roof meaning 120MM HE or larger can disable it top down.
That is not what I nor you said.
We are talking about how you said “as i said several times the best tank in the US is the M1A1 paired with the HSTVL.” this.
Which is objectively rididculous because the M1A1 HC and M1A2 sit at the same BR as the HSTV-L and are better than the M1A1 due to the slightly better round.
I’ve a what, 1.5KD in a barely spaded M1A2 which i’ve not even got the top round on yet. but go off lad.
I don’t suffer in the abrams at all.
3BM60 is one of the lower penning rounds at top tier, that is just factually wrong to state.
the DM53 as well last I checked out the L/55 caliber gun cannot pen an abrams turret cheek either.
Aye my bad got mixed up with the Cr1’s and 2’s as the 2 has a different composite layout but is “same” numerically.
The M1A2 sits at 11.7 bud, the sep V1 and V2 sit at 12.0
while functionally the M1A2 is the same.
Because armour isnt the most significant thing at top tier at all. Reload rate and mobility are the most important factors, followed by armour lastly.
the T80’s, all of them, have faster forward speed by 2kmph. Roughly comparable HP/PT
while being worse in
so again, why would you want to lose ^all of those for the chance the persons stupid enough to fire at your UFP?
WHY ARE YOU FIRING AT UFP at top tier any way?
Dudes firing at the UFP of a T80 ( or any tank at top tier) what do you expect. .
I mean you are denying statistical advantages to claim theres
A - more T80s than Abrams.
B - T80U’s are better than top tier abrams
C - that the T80s are indestructible things.
which is all wrong.
EDIT : wanna know why US teams lose so much? and the tanks feel bad? cause you’re almost always left in a 1v4 situation due to ODLers or folks leaving due to seeing US on tehir team.
Just hold W and die to dudes flanking xD
4 games, all like this, no flank control at all, = loss.
Use teams just want a super tank to hold W and win with
Im sorry but the abrams is not a one hit kill by any means at all.
Even the last match I was in took a dude 3 shots in a BVM side on to even make me J out.
position better and the abrams will do fine.
Also Cr2s are no where near as survivable as an abrams just an FYI:
well no lol thrid place of easiest to one shot without much effort of aiming
Ariete Type 10 fellow by Abrams if cut Ariete out because it isn’t top tier well second place.
killing abrams it even easier than killing Russian tanks really you hit anywhere at the hull and shoot yep that all you do
why isn’t Challenger 2 on the list you might wonder? well in the same tier as Abrams it terms of one hit kill maybe just like 3 percent lower chance than abrams since it fronts have spall liner
Imagine needing to do that , when all I have to do is say the mildest thing ever and US player lose their mind
Do not use any swear words as its a breach of guidelines
Sorry let me change that.
no problem
Yes, both of which were great examples of the Volumetric feature’s downside, rounds will choke on geometry sometimes for some reason (mostly faulty code or models), and this happens to all tanks. Both of those shots hit choke points on the tank’s model. And the last shot is literally the most armoured plate on the tank, you could not have shot it at a worse spot. I’m not going to accuse cherrypicking, but both of these shots are really bad examples of trying to forward your point.
Funny enough, I find Abrams hard to destroy in one shot. Way too spacious to one shot. Meanwhile the T-80s and T-90s I can usually blast in one shot.
