the 140 is one of the best 8.3s int eh game man TBH
mans baiting like mad xD has a near 5/1 KD with the 140 :) if u know u know
British bias is as fake as Russian bias.
They have a bunch of good stuffs, Fox, Falcon, Chieftain Mk10, Rooikat MTTD, Olifant Mk2, FV4030 before it got moved, these things when played properly they are super broken lol I am not gaslighting I have the stats to back up my claims. I weren’t very sure what happened up there as I’m just contemplating on getting the TDD, and note that at 10.3 they have like four SPAAs, FOUR
hey hey hey hey it can go higher if it has Stalinium! I mean when you got 5, the next stop is 10 KDR bro remember that the sky is the limit, if you are a millionaire, don’t stop until you become a billionaire bro
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The Chieftains have incorrect armours.
have the wrong engines
Mk5 has no L15A5 (modelled properly)
Mk5 has no laser range finder (first tank to ever mount one)
On top of that the FV4030, is missing access to : Smoke round, Hollow charge (HEAT-FS), and has incorrectly got L15A5 C&P, im actually unsure if it could even fire the L23 round.
On top of that its armour was proven to be modelled incorrectly and is yet to even be seen the report.
ontop of all that, the shir 2 now sits at 10.0, where it faces off against 11.0s regularly, with an anemic 9.0 round.
The T55M at 9.0 has a more reliable round than the L23, it struggles massively even with 10.7 tanks.
Would be nice if we had gotten the roof MG it can mount xD
Fun tank for the one or two games ive had in it
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XDDD love it man, I’ve not got a KD like yours with it, but fking hell the 140 is fun man, that 14.5MM HMG has saved my bacon a few times against the rat tanks
get yo chat gpt ass replies out of here lmao
in single shot punch yes it is. there’s only 3mm difference in shell case size.
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penetration doesnt matter when you can spam the hell out of everything and abuse badly made DMs
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Yeah, but that doesn’t account for the true nature of the GAU-8. GAU-8 is meant to unleash 65 rounds a second, while the fox only shoots out a single round per .9 seconds (pretty sure it’s .9 correct me if I’m wrong). Comparing them just by a single shot is like relying on the stat-card of a vehicle–it doesn’t consider every possible factor
Cartridge is slightly shorter than 30x173 on GAU-8 and Bushmaster 2
Edit: scrolled down farther and the volume of propellant looks to be about the same since RARDEN is slightly wider too
You do realise that you can cupola tanks of every nation and russia is one of the hardest to cupola because they have more armour, are smaller and better angled?
You are complaining about a weakspot being penned
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I mean you can overpressure MBTs from underneath with SPAA or even pixel hunt with fast firing auto cannons.
Not gonna muck about with nations, every single auto cannon / extremely fast firing gun in this game needs reviewed again,
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hey hey hey don’t be that reddit guy who says 1.0-11.7 is lowtier and 12.0 is top tier, if we put the br numbers in our clock, 8:15 pm is not morning anymore, if anything it is in the high tier territory bro.
What do you think about 8.7-9.0 SPAAs? M247, PGZ09 vs the Shilkas? they are clearly not equal, USA definitely has their anti-air bias in certain brs.
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Lets be honest here, russia only has one good top tier tank, a great SPAA and ofc the CAS.
Not like USA which has 4 or 5 abrams xD or germany etc.
Also the m427 York is absolutely dog water in my hands, id rather a shilka or PGZ TBH.
( i prefer proxy rounds in my ZTZ 88’s over SPAA though so I cant say much)
10.3? is it ? the LAV? absolutely shreds.
Same as that new SPAA XM426 or whateverit is
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Then you have not played through the entire TT.
Like the Conq is abysmaly bad at its BR due to having literally the weakest APDS damage in the entire game losing to uncapped 37mm AP shells damage wise. But give it a solid AP round and it probably would go up to 8.0 instantly.
Tortoise also exists, a tank with more weakspots on the front plate than armored sections
3in Gun carrier, no need to add anything there.
Ratel based vehicles are also not great especially the Ratel 20 which is a glorified ATGM carrier with too few ATGMs and a 20mm gun that is literally incapable of penetrating 50% of vehicles it meets anywhere and the rest only with well placed shots because of HVAP Hvaporating the moment the enemy turns its armour plate from 0° to 1° or more .
G6 is just a hard no.
But thats about it. There are some other stinkers, but even among those listed you can make most work its just a pain.
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Why?
The guns are behaving fine, its the fact that this game is a constant 0.01% of situations a tank would be in simulator. And it just so happens that these kinda guns are designed exactzly for these situations.
the conquoror is not bad… at all xD what??
Gonna ignore the one at 9.0 ish with 3 fantastic ATGMs? based on a ratel ?
Britain isnt a horrifically bad treem at all.
Lots of issues, but they aren’t objectively bad, id much rather use the chieftains over the T55s, or the RISE for example.
Im sorry, those guns are not designed to fire an anti air round under a tank and somehow it manage to richochete up and overpressure the underside of a tank.
As well as this, no they do not work as intended at all.
Best example is 9.3 MBTs getting shredded frontally by 20mm auto cannon holders.
hell I do it to top tier MBTs with my Type 87 RCV and its dart.
You should not be able to just throw enough shit at a wall and it stick in the game.
If it was modelled properly, like extended hull damage etc I wouldn’t be arsed, but its not a mechanic, its a bug in models in which rounds pass through pixel sized gaps, otherwise un noticable with a regular cannon. They do not work as they are intended to .
I said the damage on the shell. and that is the case. Again it deals less damage than uncapped 37mm AP or to make a closer comparrisonm. It has around 50% pof the damage of the 30mm Fox guns APDS at just 160times the reload aced
No SPAA at that BR has 20mm cannons… NATO has 35mm starting at around 7.7 and russia has either 23mm(which can not do what you describe at all) or 37mm. So i am gonna put that under “things that dude never experienced but claims he did”
Which is literally designed to do exactly that… LIGHT VEHICLES WITH A DART ARE DESIGNED TO DISABLE MBTS IN REALITY AT EXTREME SHORT RANGES. Again the guns are fine. The game just puts them in situation where they are literally designed to be better.
That is literally not the case except for some rare buggy cases where the type of round does not matter at all so it is irrelevant for this
nope, if there is an armour hole every cannon benefits
They do.
You should read up on the expectations of these kinda guns.
The german PUMA is expected to disable a T90 frontally at ranges below 250meters, the Gepard was assigned to frontline units and its third class role was literally anti tank work as per german army doctrine.
You claim x while reality writes y
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This is simply impossible, have you unlocked the HEVT yet? The York is technically a god tier SPAA at 9.0, it doesn’t take effort to do well in this thing, it lacks the AT ability compared to most things in the br but the AA is simply unmatched, you can try blasting your HEVT as soon as the lead indicator shows up at 6km, most jets will still flying straight into the battle field, easily 3KD in air kills by simply doing just that.
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Its also substantially higher penetrating designed to hit completely different spots.
Im aware that the post pen damage is rather lacking but the conq is not a bad tank due to this.
Same as the 88mm guns post pen is rather lacking .
I didnt just say SPAA did I , I said “auto cannons need reviewed again”
You arent reading at all just taking segments out to make it seem like I’ve said something ridiculously stupid.
Just to reinforce this statementm even in segment of my text you quoted, I did not state it was an SPAA that destroyed a 9.3 MBT frontally, I clearly stated, (even in the text you quoted)
“shredded frontally by 20mm auto cannon holders”
Ill keep that in mind next time a 2a6 dies to a 30mm dart somehow drifting through a random “gap” in the armour.
It very much is the case, dunno why you say it isn’t, there are reports for so many tanks in the game with these pixel sized gaps in armour.
You cannot read can you.
I didn’t say it does not benefit the larger cannons, I said it’s, and I quote , “un noticable” which means when a 105MM cannon round ( for example) hits the pixel and goes through, you chalk it up to the pen of the cannon.
When a 20mm on say, a Marder, or RCV etc manages to go through, say teh mantlet of an AMX30 Super, Or leopard 1A5, you notice it substantially more.
that is the first ever time I’ve seen that be said.
On top of this, as far as im aware for the gepard, its dual feed system meant someone had to be outside the tank to switch it over to the APDS rounds.
Reality doesnt write anything different, You just genuienly either cannot read or are choosing to ignore what the words that are infront of you mean.
At no point did I state that IFV’s were not designed to be able to.
Puma for a start has a 30MM specifically designed for being able to take on heavier armour.
The XM800T mounts the same 20MM for example as the Marder 1A3 an auto cannon never designed to go up against heavy armour, instead extremely light armour and infact infantry
Hence the name IFV.
On top of this, we have seen in real life a bradley bushmaster take out a T90 and exceptionally close range.
however as I stated above about the hull damage mechanic (which you conviently ignored)
The Bradley caused repetative hits which eventually broke through (apparently.) its cannon was never designed to be going toe to toe with an MBT, the fact that it can is entirely different.
EDIT: Im not gonna keep this going with the auto cannon stuff BTW, cause I do not want to derail yet another thread its becoming somewhat of a bad habit.
However, I will say one thing. How can you say to @MotorolaCRO that he hasn’t played the entire Ground TT for britain, when you aren’t even past rank 5 in the ground tree and he is ?
Bit strange to say that, on top of this the conquoror you said was bad, you do extremely well with…
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