Britains new 'Commonwealth MBT' tech tree line

With the recent confirmation that the current Vickers export line in the British tree is being repurposed to also include Commonwealth MBTs, I thought it would be a good idea to discuss the potential additions from the 56 Commonwealth Member nations that this change puts on the table for the British tree, and how opening up the British tree to essentially every MBT ever built will UNDOUBTEDLY be a FANTASTIC change from instead having the line dedicated to Vickers extremely unique and fun to play export catalogue.

Enjoy!

(The pictures may not be perfect for some of the smaller nations, photos of MBTs operated by certain countries are rather hard to come by)

Australia

Centurions (various)

Leopard 1

M1 Abrams

M1 Abrams SEP V3

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Bangladesh

Type 59 Durjoy

Type 96-IIG

MBT 2000

VT-5

T-54

Type 62

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Botswana

SK-105

Canada

Centurion (various Mks)

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Leopard 1 (various)

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Leopard 1 upgrades (various)

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Leopard 2A4

Leopard 2A4M

Leopard 2A6/M

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Cyprus

T-80U

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AMX 30B2

T-34-85

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M-48A5
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M-47

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India

M-47

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M-48

T-54

T-55

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T-55 G

T-72

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T-72 Late

CI Ajeya

Bhishma Mk II

Bhishma Mk III

Bhishma II

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Centurion Mk 3

Centurion Mk 7

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Vijayanta Mk.1A

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Vijayanta Mk.1B

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Vijayanta Mk.2

Karna

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Arjun P

Arjun Mk 1

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Arjun Mk 1A

T-90MS

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Kenya

Vickers Mk 3

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T-72AV

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Lesotho

A single T-55

Malaysia

PT-91M

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Mozambique

T-54

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Namibia

T-54

Nigeria

VT-4

T-72

nigerian-army-t-72-main-battle-tank

T-54

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Vickers Mk 3

Pakistan

VT-4

mbt-3000

Al-Zarrar

hit-al-zarrar-mbt

Al-Khalid

al-khalid

VT-1A
norinco-vt1a-main-battle-tank-china

T-90

t90-main-battle-tank-russia_12

Type 85

type-85-ii

ZTZ-88

type-80-main-battle-tank_2

Type 69

type-69-main-battle-tank

T-80
t80-main-battle-tank-soviet-union_2

M48A5

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Rwanda

T-55

Congolese_tank_400x300

Tiran 5

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Singapore

Leopard 2SG

Leopard 2A4

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South Africa

T-34-85
T-34-85

Centurions (various)
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Olifant Mk 1
olifant mk 1

Olifant Mk 1A
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Olifant Mk 1A ERA
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Olifant Mk 2
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Olifant Optimum

T-55

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T-55 (Heavy Armour)

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M48 (Heavy Armour)
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T-72M1
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TTD

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Tanzania

Type 59G

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Type 62

Type_62_tank_at_Jianchuan_Museum

VT-2

Tanzania-parades-VT2-tank-1

Togo

T-54

download

T-34-85

download

Uganda

T-55

T-90S

download

Type 85

Uganda_MBTs_400x300

Zambia

T-54

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Very good. Better placement than Isreal.

Very good. If they won’t add it to the Japanese tree I support their addition to the British tree.

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uk_vijayanta

uk_vickers_mbt_mk_3

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uk_olifant_mk_2

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Did I miss something or you spend grand total of two nanoseconds looking whenever some of these vehicles might be in the game already?

Also no to the obvious copypaste as well as chinese MBTs. Bangladesh vehicles are already in the chinese TT, as well as pakistani vehicles.

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To be fair “Commonwealth MBT line” likely means this is where the subtree MBTs go, not that all of the commonwealth nations go here.

Some of these, for example Pakistan, are already confirmed to be placed in other techtrees for example and thus won’t be featured in the British tree.
I think the only ones that are expected to be placed in the British tree are South Africanand Indian vehicles from the subtrees, and possibly some Ausralian and Canadian vehicles that act as on-off subtrees right now.
That’s still a lot, but nowhere near as excessive as this extreme case example listing all Commonwealth MBTs

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I think you’ll have a very hard time convincing anyone that this is a good Idea

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it doesnt even say that
“After the changes, the MBT line after the Vickers Mk.1 will focus on Commonwealth tanks and export MBTs. The right line will focus on light wheeled and tracked AFVs, classified in-game as light tanks.”

Commonwealth tanks, can mean australian redbacks, canadian lavs as well and export mbts.
The only thing promised for that line specialy mbt wise are the export variants

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I think you’re missing a few

Honestly this doesn’t even sound like much of an announcement.

Realistically speaking all this does is talk about the reorganization of the techtree where the dedicated South African line is removed and a light tank line left in its place. Tanks from the commonwealth subtrees (so currently South Africa, India and sometimes Australia and Canada) now go in the export line, but won’t be in the British MBT line. It’s probably actually (mostly) limited to MBTs though since other vehicles types also have their dedicated lines.
Saying “commonwealth tanks” was just quicker than saying “South African, Indian and possible Australian/Canadian tanks”.

So it seems like a bit of an overreaction to say “All commonwealth nations MBTs will be added to the Brititsh tree now”

oh that specialy, the whole canadian /australian mbt debate as well.

In the whole thing germany getting an additional 2a4m can, is a bit of a punch into the canadian community

The 2A4M gooner addition is a German flag though, only canadian in it being a 2A4M CAN.

Yeah personally I just hate split nations. It’s fine to spread vehicles around a bit based on technical connection for a nation that doesn’t have a fixed home in game, but to make this split up state the fixed home just seems awful.

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that was on release actualy one of the most infurating and scared things the canadians had

I didn’t know about the standard 2A4M but the new one added is under a German flag

splitting it is awful, i agree.

But Uk just has to much, i am against the implementation into the UK at this point thats my problem realy

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Fair enough, Britain / South Africa / India seem to be at a point to match the US and USSR trees in potential now without further help. Though I wouldn’t know about any specific things like missing mechanics or capability gaps.

I just don’t like split nations, but where exactly Australia/Canada should be placed isn’t something I thought about much at all. I don’t really know enough about their history or the preferences of their players to say what’s best anyways.
At the end of the day all I care for is holding all nations to a consistent standard, and not treating some nations as anything less for whatever reason.

Most of us would say the UK would be the best place. The Aussies are fine with the US(at least the few I know), but for reasons as obvious as opening the news, Canadians aren’t.

With trees on the table again, a Can-ANZAC tree isn’t too crazy—in either history or vehicles.

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Absolutely not to every single one of these except the Centurions, Vickers, Arjuns and all their descendants.

I feel like Britain should have its own US subtree too since America’s origins lie in the British Thirteen Colonies

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No T90M for the British, so no

No i already claim Norway, Finland and Sweden under the Danish tree due to us owning them under Queen Margaret during the Kalmar Union.

I dont need the UK lol