Britain Naval Tree - What’s left to be added for all BRs

well hms grafton has hevt rounds and it was sank in 1940 soooo

Did Grafton specifically have them, or did the class of destroyers get them, Thats the question.

Though as always, shells are balancing decision. Its probably why Barham is misisng her HE shells

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Theodora Wwwwwww - Battlecruiser "HMS HOOD" 1944 Refit Theodora Wwwwwww - Battlecruiser "HMS HOOD" 1944 Refit hms hood refit
Theodora Wwwwwww - Battlecruiser "HMS HOOD" 1944 Refit

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so from the look of this 2 of them made it through the war

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NE 1004B Gneisenau 15 inch guns – 1250Ships.com 15 inch gun gnisenau refit

so from a breif scrape of the internet the uk adopted he-vt after the americans at some point 1944

For top tier there’s F-20, but well, unless BR moves, yes 7.0 premium would be hard to expect.

You mean in Arcade, right? Because in realistic even jets struggle against early WW2 BBs.

Depends on time. VT fuze actually comes in service at late war. I’m nost sure about Royal Navy, but for the US Navy first ship to test VT fuze was USS Cleveland on winter of 1943 and field service was started on 1944.

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There is also when it “entered service” and when they were allowed to use it. iirc. They were quite heavily restricted in when and where they could use it to keep it a secret from the Germans, The last thing they wanted was Germany discovering HE-VT even existed, let alone recovering one to reverse engineer. Even its name HE-VT (high Explosive variable time) shows that

That looks like Hood crossed with Vanguard. So a very pretty ship.

Though i think if they were to refit Hood they would have made the deck more flush with more flare and beam on the bow and possibly given her a transom stern.

This list seems totally bs, from top to the bottom and pretty lazy to that.

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so i have been looking into supercharged shells on the 15 inch shells and how much more penetration that would give the guns i would up the penitration to around 520mm ish at 15,000M but if anyone has more concrete data on how much better they would be that would be nice to know

I believe somebody did the full calculation and its much improved, giving even higher pen pointblank than the high velocity German 15" on Bismarck.

Another thing is they will be late war shells with a proper APCBC cap for less penetration dropoff and and longer shells in addition to that with 6crh heads.

Unfortunately the better shell body quality and quality of the capping won’t be reflected but historically Britain put a lot of effort into that in order to ensure shells penetrated intact.

How about a South African ship for the UK tree?


on old calculator for ground, point blank pen is similar but for long range penetration, 15’’ supercharge exceed German 14.96’’ cause of heavier shell. Maybe even surpassing Lion’s 16’’ in game due to flatter trajectory and longer travel distance before thosse short fuze explode.

Besides, heard some rumor that Royal Navy actually can reload faster than 30 seconds even according to legit reloading procedure. But those who saids that he needs time to find sources he once saw. Any Idea?

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i know this is from my video, where i said i highly doubted it in the first place, and then commented its fake (i hate how you cant pin comments on tiktok)

1 the world of war thunder news doesn’t revolve around you and 2 not everyone uses tiktok.

well it might be like how during rodney’s fight with bismark exceded her on paper reload

Sounds about right, but even so the UK shells also have a better bursting charge iirc. German 38cm has 20.25kg of TNT, whereas British 381mm has 22kg of Shellite which is a 70/30 ratio of Lyddite and dinitrophenol. In-game Lyddite has a TNT modifier of about 10% higher than equivalent weight in TNT so its a little bit better overall.

The HE shell disparity is absolutely insane though.

Main issue with Bismarck class vs for example Vanguard is gun handling and reload. The Shell differences are contrarily favourable to the RN.

As for the reload thing, I recall seeing 2.2 RPM being possibly achieved which would be pretty nice and not too far from Bismarck class’ 2.3 at 4 degrees elevation (which is <10,000 metres range so really Bismarck shouldn’t get many shots like that).

I’m gonna keep looking into it.

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man this latest pasted to the dev’s is kinda boring like only 3 things passed for navel and non are to intresting looking outside of the cruiser having a nukes on it

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At least something has come through, we are waiting in vain for gap fillers in all naval trees.

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