Fair, I couldnt quite remember which way round was best when previously discussed so had a 50/50 chance of getting it right.
But yeah, either way. Vanguard is in a really dumb place
I believe it is howe with tones of 40mm’s
It’s entirely so we get full lineups. It would mean 3 ships at 8.0 (Vanguard, KGV DoY) and 3 ships at 8.3/8.7 (Lion, Temeraire G3 16.5”)
I do hope when we get around to getting blueprint ships we see Minatour 47
I do want some more powerful British cruisers hopefully with some proper ap shells
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How would the gun performance of the KGV be?
Neptune also would be appreciated
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Wonder if they would consider doing refits as a Tier 4 modification? Probably too much work for them.
Slightly better than the Japanese 14” in reality in game I’m not sure around the same but better pen at distance, probably somewhere around the level of the 15” APCBC but only the MKXIIa.
The round itself is heavier by ~50kg but loses ~20m/s
That sounds decent, is the reload 30 seconds?
Technically I believe 28 was the fastest ever achieved, but early on the mountings were notorious for having issues due to inexperienced crews and a new mechanism that was relatively untested.
I fully expect gaijin to pull a Rodney/Roma and ignore all written sources for a negative stereotype.
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On the round actually I think it will be okay, and it has a very high bursting charge for its calibre. I was expecting worse until I compared it with the Japanese 14” which I view to be just about okay for 7.7. KGV I hope may edge slightly further on pen at least at range and then the armour should help it to be okay at 8.0
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Maybe, but so far we’ve seen later refits as another ship of the class, so I’d assume the trend would continue.
Barham > Warspite
Southampton > Liverpool / Belfast
etc etc
Yeah, rather solid addition. Sitll got a few quite major issues to resolve, but the British knew how to build ships and so the vulnerabilities that are crippling the other nations hasnt affected us.
I’ve had very good success and im not even 100% spaded yet
It’s not ship cause, only cause of new shell accuracy vs other ships accuracy similar BR.
Vanguard was nerfed like everyone else.
Nah 381 wasn’t accurate before patch, they didn’t change it in update. Only new shell give you advantage cause of better speed.
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They buffed us in Decemeber and then nerfed us in this major update to worse than before. Just like everyone else.
Im currently unable to engage targets further than 10km away due to the shell dispersal
Naval weapon changes:
- 127 mm/50 3rd Year Type (Ayanami, Hatsuharu, Hayanami, Kiyoshimo, Nenohi, Shimakaze, Yukikaze, Yūdachi, Yūgumo), 127 mm/40 Type 89 (Fusō, Haguro, Haruna, IJN Shokaku, Ise, Isuzu, Kirishima, Kongō, Matsu, Mikuma, Mogami, Myōkō, Suzuya, Tone, Yamato): max horizontal dispersion: 0.185° → 0.21°,
- 127 mm/51 Mk. 7 (Mk. 13 mount) (Arizona (BB-39), Arkansas (BB-33), Colorado (BB-45), Texas (BB-35), Wyoming (BB-32)): max horizontal dispersion: 0.195° → 0.21°,
- 127 mm/25 Mk. 11 (Mk. 19 Mod. 2 mount) (Arizona (BB-39), Colorado (BB-45), Lexington (CV-2)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 21/1 mount) (Aylwin (DD-355)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 22 mount) (Bagley (DD-386), Davis (DD-395), Moffett (DD-362), Phelps (DD-360), Porter (DD-356), Somers (DD-381)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 29 mount) (Atlanta (CL-51), Cleveland (CL-55), Fargo (CL-106), Helena (CL-50), Iowa (BB-61)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 30 Mod. 33-36 mounts) (Saratoga (CV-6)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 30 Mod. 85 mount) (Bagley (DD-386), Bennion (DD-662), Coolbaugh (DE-217), Cowell (DD-547), Fletcher (DD-445), Zerstörer 4 (D 178), Harukaze (DD-101), Yūgure (DD-184), Geniere (D 555)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 32 mount) (Alaska (CB-1), Baltimore (CA-68), Des Moines (CA-134), Nevada (BB-36), Newport News (CA-148), Pittsburgh (CA-72), Tennessee (BB-43)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 32 Mod. 2 mount) (Saratoga (CV-6)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 38 mount) (Allen M. Sumner (DD-692), Frank Knox (DD-742), Gearing (DD-710), Impetuoso (D 558)), 127 mm/25 Mk. 13 (Mk. 19 mount) (Brooklyn (CL-40), Mississippi (BB-41), New Orleans (CA-32), Northampton (CA-26), Pensacola (CA-24), Portland (CA-33)), 127 mm/54 Mk. 16 (Mk. 39 mount) (Murasame (DD-107)), 127 mm/54 Mk. 18 (Mk. 42 mount) (Forrestal (CV-59), Mitscher (DL-2), Wilkinson (DL-5)): max horizontal dispersion: 0.17° → 0.23°,
- 133 mm/50 Q.F. Mk. I (Mk. II mount) (Dido (37), Vanguard (23)):
- max horizontal dispersion: 0.12° → 0.16°,
- max vertical dispersion: 0.29° → 0.26°,
- 135 mm/45 OTO Mod. 38 (Attilio Regolo, Comandante Margottini (MA), Conte di Cavour, Duilio, Etna), 138 mm/55 mle. 1910 (Amiens, Arras, Bretagne, Courbet, Lorraine, Paris), 138 mm/40 mle. 1927 (Aigle (X 13), Milan (X 111), Vauquelin (X 53), Vautour (X 71)), 138 mm/50 mle. 1929 (Le Malin (X 82), Le Triomphant (X 83)), 138 mm/50 mle. 1934 Mod. 1938 (Mogador (X 61)), 140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (Amagi, Hyūga, Ise, Mutsu, Sendai, Tama, Yūbari):
- max horizontal dispersion: 0.25° → 0.23°,
- max vertical dispersion: 0.29° → 0.28°,
- 152 mm/40 Armstrong Mod. 1899/16 (Aquila (AQ)), 152 mm/55 mle. 1930 (Émile Bertin, La Galissonnière, Richelieu), 152 mm/53 OTO Mod. 26 (Bartolomeo Colleoni), 152 mm/53 OTO Mod. 29 (Kerch, Eugenio di Savoia, Raimondo Montecuccoli), 152 mm/55 Ansaldo Mod. 34 (Luigi di Savoia Duca degli Abruzzi, Roma):
- max horizontal dispersion: 0.23° → 0.26°,
- max vertical dispersion: 0.31° → 0.33°,
- 152 mm/57 B-38 (Chapayev, Kronshtadt, Mikhail Kutuzov, Sevastopol, Shcherbakov, Sovetsky Soyuz, Sverdlov, Zheleznyakov), 152 mm M81 (Flagstaff (PGH-1)):
- max horizontal dispersion: 0.24° → 0.25°,
- max vertical dispersion: 0.3° → 0.31°,
- 152 mm/50 Q.F. Mk. N5 (Mk. 26 mount) (Tiger (C 20)): max vertical dispersion: 0.32° → 0.34°,
- 180 mm/57 B-1-P (Kirov, Maxim Gorky, Voroshilov), 180 mm/60 B-1-K (Krasny Kavkaz):
- max horizontal dispersion: 0.21° → 0.255°,
- max vertical dispersion: 0.32° → 0.36°,
- 190 mm/45 B.L. Mk. VI (C.P. Mk. V mount) (Hawkins (D 86)): max vertical dispersion: 0.32° → 0.36°,
- 283 mm/45 S.K. (Nassau, Von der Tann, Westfalen): max vertical dispersion: 0.26° → 0.28°,
- 283 mm/52 S.K. C/28 (Admiral Graf Spee), 283 mm/54 S.K. C/34 (Scharnhorst):
- max horizontal dispersion: 0.24° → 0.31°,
- max vertical dispersion: 0.32° → 0.33°,
- 305 mm/45 41st Year Type (Ikoma, Kurama, Settsu), 305 mm/50 41st Year Type (Settsu), 305 mm/45 B.L. Mk. X (Dreadnought, Invincible (85)), 305 mm/50 B.L. Mk. XI (B. Mk. XI mount) (Colossus), 305 mm/50 Mk. 7 (Mk. 9 mount) (Arkansas (BB-33), Wyoming (BB-32)), 305 mm/50 Mk. 8 (3-Gun Turret mount) (Alaska (CB-1)), 305 mm/45 mle. 1906/10 (Courbet, Paris), 305 mm/50 S.K. (Derfflinger, Helgoland, Kaiser, Ostfriesland): max horizontal dispersion: 0.24° → 0.25°
- 305 mm/55 B-50 (Kronshtadt), 305 mm/52 obr. 1907 g. (Imperatritsa Mariya, Marat, Parizhskaya Kommuna, Poltava): max horizontal dispersion: 0.2° → 0.27°,
- 305 mm/46 Elswick Mod. 1909 (Dante Alighieri, Leonardo da Vinci), 305 mm/45 Mk. 5 (Mk. 7 mount) (North Dakota (BB-29)), 305 mm/46 Vickers 305/46 Mod. 09 (Andrea Doria): max horizontal dispersion: 0.25° → 0.31°,
- 356 mm/45 41st Year Type (Fusō, Haruna, Hyūga, Ise, Kirishima, Kongō, Yamashiro), 356 mm/45 Mk. 8 (3-Gun Turret mount) (Arizona (BB-39)), 356 mm/45 Mk. 12 (Nevada (BB-36), Texas (BB-35)), 356 mm/52 obr. 1913 g. (Izmail):
- max horizontal dispersion: 0.34° → 0.31°,
- max vertical dispersion: 0.28° → 0.3°,
- 356 mm/50 Mk. 11 (Mississippi (BB-41), Tennessee (BB-43)): max vertical dispersion: 0.3° → 0.285°
Nope
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