Britain Naval Tree - What’s left to be added for all BRs

Either an R or a QE class I think is most likely, personally I’d pick a QE class for the mobility over the marginally better armour on the R’s probably Valiant and Warspite, maybe QE and Warspite. An R class is possible though and it gives Russia another option.

A KGV would be interesting, I think perhaps too good still, like a US standard but better overall though worse penetration, so maybe she could be well balanced?

I think she should bring br 7.3 with her if she does come though and I’d like to see Scharnhorst, Amagi and Kron go up with her.

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Nelson (though I’d prefer Rodney because I had family that served on her) would be extremely good. All the big guns to the bow of the ship so she could lay maximum hate whilst presenting a minimum profile

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Nelson is a beast that can really slog it out with the enemy. I also recently discovered that Nelsons meh reload rate of 40+ seconds irl was due to the need to fire the guns at intervals to keep accuracy decent (though ironically it was still better than many other 15" and 16" guns without this).

So 1st and 3rd would fire and then the middle gun of the turret would fire however guns couldnt be loaded individually but all at the same time. Which meant the whole cycle from first shot fired to all being reloaded was 40+ seconds. However ingame theres no need for Nelson to fire in intervals as dispersion is a set figure.

Nelson has a 12-14 inch belt that is heavily inclined. She has better armour than anything British but the G 3 even better than the Lion and KGV class.

With G 3 then its dependent on which one (treaty or not) and if Gaijin accepted that G 3 should have 16.5" superheavy or not (i also plan to argue for 16" superheavy if we can’t have 16.5") as without that again there is not too much difference aside from speed.

Then it also has the 6x twin 6" inch guns which should be great help at dealing with lighter targets at closer ranges and a very good AA loadout

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Afaik they weren’t very good D.P guns irl but ingame its probably not relevant. They should be perfectly capable vs cruisers and destroyers.

As you said AA is capable and much bettet than G 3 tor example (though G 3 is no slouch for WNT)

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But much AoN than those two, which makes her vulnerable to HE and SAP. Trying to solve those problem, I included in my thread on game discussion tab(What Gaijin needs to do before introduction of post-Treaty capital ships(WIP)), but my idea is short…

Besides, is Royal Navy consider using coastal supercharge for their 14’’ on KGV classes after war? KGV classes left in reserve after war for counter possible-soviet battleships, and Vanguard class on similar role was planned to use supercharge on wartime. I’m curious if KGV class has similar plan.

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I missed this thread, I have had a read, definitely explains a lot about Paris Kommuna and Marat having ridiculously good survivability. I suspect its probably something to do with the Russians focusing on HE protection post Russo-Japanese war but I’m pretty sure most other nations also figured this out not just Russia, like how post-Jutland people figured out things about ammunition storage.

I never found anything suggesting that was considered unfortunately, though I am fairly certain supercharges would have fit. But due to the calibre and armour layout being less favourable I don’t anticipate the KGV’s will be high enough to truly need them.


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Leeeeeeet’s goooooooooo

India would give a lot to British coastal where we do admittedly have some limitations.

Well, limitations until we get Leander class and other frigates

Yeah I think frigates could certainly aide with this as well as DDG’s but equally some corvettes fielded by the INS are just what is needed.

They’re like the equivalent of the UK’s River class but not woefully under-armed. We could get by without them, but we would probably benefit from their addition in some areas.

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I think bigger limitation is british lack of decently armed coastal patrol vessels that could fit coastal spawns.

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Yep you summed up what I was thinking there.

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ye I saw your comment popping up when I already hit enter:)

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Great minds think alike

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Damn you’re right, if only we’d built the osa class corvette

Unfortunately the OPV’s are not very good for any in-game purpose (or arguably IRL purpose either)

But Britain hasn’t built a corvette since the late 19th century

I won’t lie, I really don’t like Barham. The distributed armour scheme doesn’t work for me, just everything makes her leech crew as you said here,

My other issues, the rangefinder has abysmal accuracy, the SAP shell seems to fuse prematurely so is basically worthless, the AP is not ballistic capped so dumps all its penetration immediately. Her engine blocks seem vulnerable, I’m not sure if its because people just shoot centre mass or if there’s something else dispersion is shite as we already knew impossible to hit anything accurately at range.

All in all she just seems like the 7.0 version of Orion. Again I will defer back to Hood (weirdly enough, I find Marlborough much more playable probably due to the aforementioned dispersion issue).

So the TL:DR is i’m looking forward to either, a modernised variant with better shells, rangefinder, radar etc. Or KGV which also adds the benefit of AoN armour scheme.

I’ve been enjoying having the 6x 6 inch guns to pump into targets between main gun reloads, but yeah, it feels so slow and heavy compared to Hood/Renown that once spaded (and gunna save the spade bonus for whatever is new) i’ll probably not play it much