Britain Air Forces

Mate the steerimg ain’t the only problem it the speed and armour too
It got placeholder numbers for its era

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honestly I don’t even think it’s that, because if that’s the case why did the best leopard went to the swedish tree, are swedish mains paying a ton? I’m suspecting straight up bias

HMS Hood’s guns have a higher dispersion stat than both Kronshtadt and Scharnhorst, but we know BL 15-inch guns were the most accurate naval guns of WW2, and that’s not me saying it, the US tested it.

For the whole tree this is the reason because mod didn’t want fighters

You’ve focused ONLY on the first item in the list of about 20 missing features and capabilities. Even basic things like Gunner and commander positions, where ammo is located or the pen of the L27A1 is wrong and has been proven wrong

Each Boz pod IRL can carry 28 flares and 600 chaff. They currently only have 28 CMs. Therefore, its missing 600x2 chaff count, everything I said was 100% accurate. Missing 95% of its CM count is a massive nerf.

We are still missing multiple other loadout options, such as Sea Eagles, Paveway II and Cluster bombs. Not too mention the lack of ground radar massively nerfs the weapons we’ve got.

And? R-73s and Aim-9M weren’t required for F-16 or Mig-29, but they got them. But we cant ask for our missiles. Heck, we were just denied by Smin in the Tornado thread the De-Chirped Aim-9Ls which were standard on ALL british aircraft.

Nope

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/uMO3VGJ8IjBf
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/wi1YHANSfsrs

Wrong again, we have about 50+ aircraft missing from our TT. Including AT LEAST 4 that would be 12+ but they refuse to add them. Even the Typhoon was denied because US and USSR mains dont have enough skill to face them

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IRL the Challenger exhibits a lethargic mobility, insufficient protection, a hard cap on maximum shell capability due to 2 piece ammunition.

Its not “starting stuff” to point out facts and shoot down the PR myths that loyal fan bases inevitably cook up.

The pics of the CR2s mantlet are publicly available, and aside from the ERA it is quite good. The UK TT is even one of the few to receive x4 of its top MBT.

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We do suffer because the MOD like to prat about, but also we suffer because Gaijin hasn’t added what we do have, or they have nerfed it.

Not gonna argue SRAAM wasn’t bs, but there were other options, P.1109B or even better, in update supersonic, the supermarine Type 545, an actual supersonic. But yes we were favoured there.

Im just gunna tag @Legwolf in here, because hes done the research and knows what he is talking about. But you are wrong. In everything you have said

The tank that famous for having great protection has insufficient protection what are you on about

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How useful is ground radars in the game? Does anyone actually use them? Because yeah, its a missing feature, but is nothing to cry about honestly.

It was made with informations available at the time, Gunjob said they are looking into it, just gotta wait.

Can’t really compare ASRAAM to those anyways.

Sadly

Not even a mechanic in the game and it would require a lot of work so it doesn’t explode players pcs with so many explosions.

yep, but its not like it is intended

BVM players lost the ability to sympathize, all they could do is press W steam roll everyone

Gaijin uses the same calc for all shells, cry louder when 2 piece ammunition and “muh rifled barrel” backfire. Bug report the ammo location if you can prove it.

Gaijin hasnt implemented the 600chaff because asymmetrical CM carriage isnt implemented, this has been addressed.

If it is missing an implemented weapon either you are lying or there is insufficient proof. Ground radar works much differently than how you perceive, rarely exhibiting the information clarity seen on modern helis or AESA.

AIM-9M/R-73 were both necessary steps forward for top tier, AMRAAM/ARH is coming in the next patch, no need to cry. ASRAAM implements an IRCCM currently not represented in game (imaging seeker) which according to publicly available records exceeds 95% flare rejection. With how gimped IRCCM is no one is ready for this, as the AIM-9X, IRIS-T, and other advanced IRAAMs are near certain kills within WEZ.

Both of the listed bug reports were approved within the last 6mo, and are likely to be implemented.

Your last paragraph show how truly little your understand in the evolution of air combat and the complete over-match even single system change can result in.

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Famous for its great protection against HEAT projectiles maybe, but comically bad against kinetic penetrators.

but redtop bug reports already approved for many years, still not fixed
why can think it can be fixed quickly ?

I think with both EF2000 and F18 denied we’re probably looking at a South African gripen

Comically are you trying to anger people

Perhaps, but If top tier aircraft that did not need IRCCM missiles to be highly competitive can get added without any second thought, but we cant even ask for good missiles on much older and weaker airframes. Its kinda BS. Early ASRAAM intergration on F3 would mitigate a LOT of the ASRAAMs later strength, because it was at best a bodge job initially. Would just be longer ranged version of the Aim-9M essentially

Seperating CMs has been a requested feature for years. Entering the Tornado development they must have seen this coming and we’ve had this now for over a year with no word on any improvements. They could at minimum compromise and just double the CM count, so we have 56 flares and 56 chaff and lock it to mixed CMs loadout. At least give us IRL flare count with some chaff.

Wasn’t it only the lease ones denied though

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Both rare prototypes with limited information, as cool as the Type 545 would be Gaijin likely lacked the information to model it properly.

UK MOD: Sure the turret cheeks can have 800mm kinetic protection, even the upper plate can have some. The other 40% of the tanks profile? Meh, WW2 medium tank armor should suffice…