Not gonna lie, to me the ZA-35 is a godsent, the radar works differently and is way more reliable, the wheeled base is extremely handy and having two radar SPAAs is always good
I get what you mean, but we can’t really influence gaijin, as much as we’d like to. I want the domestic stuff first too, but I still would like to get these indian planes and the ones based on british should go in the british tree. I’d be fine with their Mirages and other french planes going to france and the russian planes going to the russian tree.
Pretty much agree with everything else but the addition of one doesn’t negate the addition of others, I do think that at that bracket (9.7-top tier) Britain is quite limited even if you consider aircraft not in game, so other nations vehicles wouldn’t hurt at all.
I genuinely fear it would. I can see Germany and Italy getting Typhoon in the same update we got the Indian Su-30 BR equivalent and not getting Typhoon for 1-2 major updates.
I personally think South Africa’s Mirages would be a good addition. Let’s get one thing out of the way first - it is almost 100% copy pasted. But there’s still some room for variety here.
Take the Mirage IIIR2Z. It’s a Mirage IIIR reconnaissance aircraft with the Atar 9K-50 powerplant, same as found on the Mirage F1, and it could still carry air to air missiles, although it had no radar because the nose was used for camera equipment. It also received an upgraded RWR compared to the normal Mirage III. With no countermeasures, it would rely on its performance and potent V3B Kukri AAMs to survive.
Or the Mirage IIICZ. Yeah, it’s basically a Mirage IIIC, but towards the end of their service life, a fair few of them were given the same new RWR as the R2Z and a chaff/flare dispenser. It’s the best of the IIIC and IIIE in one package, with V3Bs to boot. Personally I think the R2Z and CZ would go really well between the Lightning and Tornado where there’s currently a rather unsightly gap.
The Mirage F1AZ is notable for not having a radar as compared to the F1C, which would distinguish it and adjust its battle rating. As well, it featured superior air to ground munitions in the form of the AS.30 and could defend itself with the V3Bs. Then there’s the Super Mirage F1, which is an upgraded F1AZ that could use R-73s and laser-guided bombs. Still no radar, though, so these two would be good strike planes.
The Cheetahs go without saying, although ironically despite them being probably the most unique, I don’t really like the idea of the Cheetah C. Its flight performance makes it effectively a Kfir with less power in exchange for crazy missiles. But let’s say WT gets to the point that A-Darters and IRIS-Ts and whatnot are flying around. The Cheetah C only gets two of them, and then it’s a fat Kfir in a world of superfighters like the Typhoon. However, I think the Cheetah D and E with their less advanced systems would slot pretty nice between the Hunter F.6 and Phantom FGR.2 with one of those being reserved for an event or something.
Plus, South African camouflages are very slick looking, whether standard patterns or one offs like the “Black Widow”.
Yeah, there are few options that could be added, and in time, they’ll be needed. but only if they increase hte number of aircraft we get. We’ve gotten a single aircraft this year. We are due a second, if they dont change their minds. That is already a 50/50 chance of not actually being British. If we start replacing British stuff with commonwealth stuff because “we have nothing to add” even though we do. Then we’ll never see early Hawks, more Hunters, the TSR2, Late Jags, etc
Like with their whole SA ground tree stuff. Its fine, if it actually filled gaps that existed. But we are getting SA TT vehicles instead of British equivalents. and what 3 or 4 years on, and they still havent appeared.
Maybe, but would a BAE Hawk or a late Hunter work just as well?
There are certainly a few that could be added and maybe they’d spice things up a bit. But I think they should be added sparingly.
The common line I’ve seen a lot recently, from both members of the community and I even got the partial impression from Smin. That Britain has nothing left, no other options to be added unless they start adding aircraft from other TTs. Which just isnt true. and that is a real tragedy.
I’m all aboard the Hawk train too. Just because we get one doesn’t mean we can’t have the other, too. As for the Hunter, besides the F.58 the options are somewhat limited. There is an Omani Hunter with four AAMs and countermeasures but limited air to ground capability, and Singapore’s Hunters could be amalgamated into one plane with four AAMs (AIM-9Gs at that), countermeasures, RWR, and Maverick capability. They’re still subsonics in a supersonic world, though.
As for the AA conversation going on here, the VERDI-2 had a mockup of the 45mm case telescoped cannon that eventually evolved into the 40mm CTAS, so I wouldn’t imagine it being any lower than the Stormer HVM considering it’s basically just that but better if they give it the gun (though it wouldn’t have the IR search sensor I suppose.)
