Britain Air Forces

Famous for its great protection against HEAT projectiles maybe, but comically bad against kinetic penetrators.

but redtop bug reports already approved for many years, still not fixed
why can think it can be fixed quickly ?

I think with both EF2000 and F18 denied we’re probably looking at a South African gripen

Comically are you trying to anger people

Perhaps, but If top tier aircraft that did not need IRCCM missiles to be highly competitive can get added without any second thought, but we cant even ask for good missiles on much older and weaker airframes. Its kinda BS. Early ASRAAM intergration on F3 would mitigate a LOT of the ASRAAMs later strength, because it was at best a bodge job initially. Would just be longer ranged version of the Aim-9M essentially

Seperating CMs has been a requested feature for years. Entering the Tornado development they must have seen this coming and we’ve had this now for over a year with no word on any improvements. They could at minimum compromise and just double the CM count, so we have 56 flares and 56 chaff and lock it to mixed CMs loadout. At least give us IRL flare count with some chaff.

Wasn’t it only the lease ones denied though

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Both rare prototypes with limited information, as cool as the Type 545 would be Gaijin likely lacked the information to model it properly.

UK MOD: Sure the turret cheeks can have 800mm kinetic protection, even the upper plate can have some. The other 40% of the tanks profile? Meh, WW2 medium tank armor should suffice…

Now your just trying to rage bait get a life

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Then do explain the lack of mantlet armor and 70mm LFP…

It would still have long range, incredible maneuverability, unflarable IRCCM, etc. The only thing holding it back would be the lack of HMD. I don’t quite like the idea of throwing overpowered missiles on bad aircraft, it’s a nightmare for balance and doesn’t solve anything really.

Just wrong. In every single way, Bug report has been submitted for this.

Done

Both bug reports on the list you looked at for 10 seconds

See above

They really weren’t IRCCM could have been given to low performance aircraft like the FA2 to maintain balance. But instead they were given to 12.3s which would have been 12.3 without them.

Already been reported. Every single one of those weapons I believe has been reported internally by @Gunjob

They are still a capability missing from the aircraft

Yes, 6 months ago and nothing, not even more than a hint they are being worked on. If that was a bug report for another nation, they’d have been fixed 6 months ago. But both missiles have been buggy for nearly a year (and they knew about it)

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There were 7 year old proposals on the old forums complete with blueprints for these aircraft, they were passed for consideration.

These are not hard to model, one is a Hunter F.6 with a pointy nose-cone and Red tops.

The other is admittedly harder but luckily for Gaijin, the Prototypes blueprints are available with the exception of the nose cone as multiple radars were slated for use.

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They nerf everything else Britain has. I really dont see why nerfing the ASRAAM down to just above Aim-9M levels would be all that bad. In the absence of a Gen 4 before the Typhoon, why not add nerfed ASRAAM to a few aircraft. Create balance that way, less mythological than the Yak-141 or F-16AJ

You need quite a bit more than prototype blueprints to model something in game.

They have been… All of them… We have been waiting for some of the CR2 bug fixes for the better part of 2 years.

Do you have a single inkling of what IRCCM is? What its intended to do? And the massive advancement/evolutions of development it has gone through?

Do you know what you are asking for?

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Just give it 9Ms then, what’s the point of an ASRAAM that doesn’t perform like an ASRAAM?

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Just to tag onto this as I didn’t clock before. The reason the UK has no 4th generation fighter is because under a NATO initiative signed by the UK and US, the UK focussed on strike aircraft and interdiction, the US however focussed on fighter aircraft.

This was mutually beneficial, the UK got air defense coverage out of RAF Lakenheath from F-15/14/16. Meanwhile the US got the UK’s dispersed operations aircraft for CAS and Tornado’s for low altitude bombing.

This was proven when the US tried bombing runways something like 7 times with F-18’s and missed, the Tornado’s did it first try.

Part of me thinks something like the F-14K would be perfect as the UK signed an DOI and it historically plugs the gap which was plugged by the same aircraft.

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9Ms on the Harriers…

Tornado ADV is really good for its BR as it is.

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