Guess I worded it a bit weirdly, @FlyingOstridge claimed the ML couldn’t use R-24s tho
I literally didn’t know anything about the R-24s before and was just offering an explanation as to why the ML would have them ingame, should their claim be accurate
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The Spey Phantoms are not well balanced at all. They are much better than the F-4E but a side grade to the F-4J.
Pros: Better engines and 20mm Gau-4.
Cons: more drag, no HMD, no AIM-7F, Worse A/G weaponry, and no wing pylons for SARH.
I would like them to get the 1000lb mk N.1 and 540lb WT community bombs.
I know they really aren’t well balanced for 11.3 when the F-4J is more of an upgrade than a sidegrade (and the F-4S being a direct upgrade over the F-4J)
However, according to the latest Q&A Gaijin considers them to be balanced with their current loadout options and specs at 11.3
Spoiler
Q: With the recent BR changes, and other recent additions, several aircraft at 11.3 now have AIM-9L and/or Python 3. Have there been any reconsiderations for the British Phantoms to receive AIM-9L too?
A: We have looked into this based on feedback, however the British Phantoms already are balanced in terms of their overall efficiency at their current Battle Rating given their current loadouts. Adding AIM-9L to these aircraft is likely to naturally increase their effectiveness and as a result drive their BR up to 11.7. An increase in BR to 11.7 might lead to an increase in rank too, however right now Britain has a total of 4 aircraft on Rank VII. So there are numerous considerations to be made that currently means adding more advanced weaponry to them is not suitable at the moment.
Consider this
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Now we’re talking. I’d go for another 2200 kills with that one too.
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I haven’t played it before (outside of dev servers) but with my track record with the FG.1 and FGR.2 I’d say it’s something I’d do great in.
Dunno what you are trying to tell me, but that sure is a nice looking RSAF Tornado ADV
Skyflash 6000, AIM-9L, and a much better radar at the same Br?
What do you mean by that?
Skyflash 6000 is the series name for SuperTEMP (What the F.3 and ADV already have). The F.3/ADV also already have AIM-9L and the best radar (pre CSP etc). The Saudi ADV does not have anything improved over the British F.3.
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Mate, I am not gaijin, neither am I stona, who posted that Q&A. I don’t make the rules or the balancing decisions. If gaijins data claims the Spey Phantoms are equal to the F-4J, F-4S, Tornado ADV/F.3, etc, then we can’t do anything about it
Yeah no, it would be literally identical to the F.3 ingame. And the Skyflash Series 6000 was another name for the SuperTEMP.
So not a new plane but maybe a skin i guess
Or could be a premium version, we have got premium 11.3s and we havent had any in a while
I’d make it a Premium personally.
Hey, it’d beat the F-4J(UK) which people disaffectionately call the “F-4JUNK”.
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No I’m not saying the Saudi version specifically. Just the normal F.3
Besides none of the Phantoms should’ve been premiums.
The F-4EJ is the worst, AIM-7E-2’s, AIM-9P’s, and a normal pulse radar.
The F-4S is the best Phantom the USA can get with AIM-7M’s and AIM-9H’s (should be Limas), a HMD, and PDV HDN radar.
The Phantom F.3 has the worst aspects of the British tree and American tree: normal Skyflashes (which are the same as the AIM-7E-2 currently), AIM-9G’s (should be Limas), no HMD, Turbojet engines, and 60 flares compared to the 90 the British Phantoms have.
@KhorneFlakez1337
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The F-4EJ ADTW is literally just a reskin of the tech tree F-4EJ. What’s wrong with it being a premium?
Lack of imagination? That’s what premiums should be, just reskins.
Dunno what’s greedy about it either.
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They shouldn’t have brought out Top Tier Premiums the second rank 8 was announced.