If you played casualy with no interest of completing the event, you had two weeks to get Po-2M (an aircraft that is much more unique than current Radkampfwagen without a pair of wheels and has 120% boost to meme value) plus have some leftover materials to sell on market.
And you had four (?) events a year, now its a neverending grind… For some such format may be appealing, for me it is not.
Thankfuly its safe to skip most of them, I forced myself to do IAR and F-106.
yes, but only to get the vehicle to keep. To sell its twice that and its still a mess to grind so much for one tank :(
Fair enough.
i mean. until you get 75 kills and 6 kills in one match, you probably will get several captures even on heavy tank.
At least that`s how it is to me
I think they need to return the “last star for coupon” method, and that`ll make it all better.
ugh, not exactly. For example, getting 4 kills in a row in ground battles with plane is much easier than in air RB. Two kills you get with bombs and then scavenge two planes with cannons, and thats it. Same goes with basic kills requirement - just bomb guys with plane as you usually do and you close that easilly.
but the requirements of time are practically the same - well, at least in terms of “getting one vehicle to keep” they are same, but they are much bigger in terms “getting one vehicle to sell”.
yes, now we have nonstop events that are easy to make to keep the tank. But harder to sell. Thats the trick Gaijin did.
yes, those who keep all miss nothing. And those who were capable to sell some? Lost MUCH. Why i keep insisting the game became more p2w than ever.
thats literal truth.
still we got more rewards back then - 4 events 6 machines each is 24 (last year of this event got us 18 machines) machines most of which were sellable if you didnt want to keep it but played at the event. And in 2024 we got 16 rewards, most of which were sellable but required 700k poins to sell. Its just much more.
ah, and i managed to miss that shot, as usually only 2 stars were on the exams week.
four times, and still the requirements were practicaly same - the only thing changed is that you had time to “cool off” after the grind between events, and you could sell the machine with same amount of effort.
just curious.
would be around the same, and maybe a bit more. Because more people would have GJNs to spend, and maybe buy one.
I mean, i look at it that way: GJNs that are aqquired through playing mentally cost less than those you bought for money. So if im at the decision: spend real money to buy GJN to buy a tank OR spend real money to buy a tank, i would go easiest way and buy a premium on gaijin store or buy GE and buy tank. And if i have GJN, i would spend them on interesting tank from previous events. Plus, GJNs represent dollar value, and the store page represents regional value. And in some places like Russia its cheaper to buy a 60$ pack than 60GJN tank because of regional value.
So making more ppl have GJNs aqquired free of charge makes them easier to spend on some “non-premium” machinery.
Which should be your main reason to doing the event anyway.
I get your angle, but grinding to sell doesnt make sense from economic standpoint these days. This circles back to the supply and demand issue.
Like, dont get me wrong, I understand the idea of trying to force someone out of their comfort zone; but if said person simply isnt interested, it can potentionally backfire.
Score event doesnt care about how you play, as long as you play. If you find fun in rushing caps with R3, you can do event that way. If you find fun slugging it out with heavy tanks, you can play event that way. If you find fun in bombing bases, you can do event that way. If you find fun dogfighting, you can do event that way.
No one is forcing you to do anything, and if you find your current playstyle boring, you can go and play with some self-imposed challenge on your own volition without forcing other people not interested in such challenge to participate and you still get points this way.
Everyone is happy.
yes, probably. Its not certainty.
that would massively increase the supply of event vehicles, leading to lower prices.
The overall process might be faster, but youre not guaranteed an aircraft spawn in ground battle.
Well, too many people started selling event vehicles on market. If you think of what could be the main reason for gaijin to do so, as company doing this for profit, too many people cutting into their revenue stream by buying vehicle packs with monopoly money does hurt their bottom line.
Im counting 5 vehicle events, including crafting ones but excluding world war.
but getting them to keep required much less strain on player as the grind was more spaced out. fair trade off id say, but ill admit this one might come down to personal preference.
I get to cool off by not doing all the events, simple as.
fair reason as any.
Well, for 2025 vehicles, ones Ive got were:
The other two I wanted to do were the norwegian F-5 and T86, both times, business trip got into way.
On what you base this assumption?
If no one is buying, no one gains GJN by selling.
If person enters the market with “fresh” GJN, they usually dont do so in order to buy recent event vehicle, but older event one.
But we once again arrive at the supply and demand issue.
Lot of people are selling vehicles on market. This drives down the prices. Also since its easier to grind the vehicle to keep, there are less buyers. Just look at any event vehicle from the last two years.
You can also see that low supply in case of old event vehicles that cant be obtained anymore increases the prices.
Only way to make the current event vehicles cost more and thus worth the time spent grinding the sellable coupon would be to further limit the supply in some way, be it somehow magically convince most of the playerbase not to sell, or wait few years before selling.
Exactly I get to ignore many events because I really don’t care about the vehicles. Like I just skipped both american amphibious vehickes this year. I don’t play the US and probably never will since they don’t have anything that reqlly interests me.
thats a fair ponit tho, there are also usually ways to make uninterested people play. For example, WoW raids let you sell the stuff you find on the market if it’s not your thing. Same was before in War THunder.
WT Mobile lets you exchange event stuff for some rewards like gold, silver, premium account ect. Genshin Impact events provide you mostly solely the money to get whichever character you want.
And so on.
well it does - it supports players who play higher ranks, so for example if i want to grind the event i would play rank 6 and 7, but regularly i`d choose ranks 4 to 6.
AND it requires you to play effectively - which was not the case with tasks, same R3 spam shows that. Yes, if we talk “just play regularly for 2 days”, that takes less effort and determined actions than this.
Maybe, but back in the days it didnt to suck
eh. You can guarantee it with a single cap or 2 to 3 ground kills or scouts. Im not talking 14.3, more like 3.0-8.0, where you easilly get kills with air and get air sspawn easilly.
thats a fair point.
i counted only seasonal events - 1 for each season. The “7 years” is not exactly a classical or lego event so i missed it by choice.
I think we can both agree on that.
xD and i just can cool off at the fleet events as i can and want to grind air and ground. As i like uniques that are added mostly
its not like that at all, at least as i can see it. Those who obtain GJN by selling machines usualy go for ppremium packs or older event machines, but those who buy GJNs with real money often buy new event machines as they missd or didnt want to grind them…
Look at it that way: newer machines are HARD to sell, and there are less of them on the market, yet they sell pretty badly… Idk that supply-demand thing is pretty hard to argue about when we have no internal info
Not really. I found the most effective way to frind score is actually to get a rank 1 1.3 or1.7 event vehicle and just play that lineup. The modifier is a bit worse but it’s much easier and more reliable to get a higher score.
I tend to disagree. Even with good event machines, making 3 to 4k points a match is harder than making 2-2.5k with rank 4 to 6
Well whatever. In my experience it’s child’s play to get 3-4k score playing 1. 3 france i spawn in the late 198 pretty much just for the score to count. I usually don’t even get any kills with it. And it’s still way faster than for example 11.0 or even 8.0 which I play quite a bit. And often way less stressful
The only people who wants crafting events to return are the only ones who dont care about the vehicles for what they are but they look at money gain value only
IS7,E100 and Obj279 going for insane amount of money,curious that those vehicles were hard af to get cause crafting events…
Meaning that who ever wants those events to return,they just want to make a profit out of every vehicle having 1k Gaijin coins in their wallet each event,its honestly pathetic,go get a job atp if you want “easy” money
WoW being entirely different genre aside for now…
Im not familiar with how WoW works, so im just gonna ask - the market for ingame items is built around ingame currency (gold) which you can gain by simply playing (as in, drops from quests and mobs etc.), is it not?
If so, GJN isnt comparable.
You know I typed out entire comment about how gacha games arent really comparable to warthunder, but more I think about it, you might have some sort of point here.
Theres indeed some similiarity between Warhunder and GI or any other gacha offering even during which “free” operator/hero can be gained for free by playing the event or bought with event currency (or which you can later gain from completing the event after it ends) from event shop.
However this is entirely beside the point of the argument ive made. No gacha game, to my knowledge, allows you to sell event operators/heroes for IRL currency to other players.
not neccesarily. the most optimal way to do the event is to gain high score regularly. If player cant break 500 points a game playing top tier but regularly gets 2000 points per game with Shermans, the best way for him to do the event is to play Shermans.
Sure, modifiers do favor higher ranks; but these are modifiers, you need to gain score to modify in the first place. 30x0 is still 0.
again, not neccesarily. Since lot of actions give you score, as long as youre gaining it, youre doing the event. Sure it could be argued that if you goof around you gain no score and as such dont progress the event; but if you goofed around with task stars you werent progressing with tasks either.
Because less people were keen on selling the event vehicles; there were also lot less packs and premiums to buy.
Newbie who wants to reach US top tier and doesnt care about other nations will likely do the event in order to sell other nation vehicle and buy Clickbait with GJN. You wont likely see the same behaviour with veteran.
You cant first spawn fixed wing aircraft and Ill admit you can massively increase the likelyhood of getting air spawn by playing in specific way; but you can also get sniped by random arty called on cap and get nothing.
hence it isnt guaranteed.
I didnt mark that one either tho.
If person is that new so that they missed event vehicle (ie. still not at rank III) theres likelyhood that they wont know about marketplace either.
If they didnt want to grind the event, theres likelyhood that they will simply GE few stars or GE the battlepass.
For someone to buy latest event vehicle through market, it would have to be someone who:
How many players will fit such profile? Less than 1%?
what?
I dont even understand what does that mean xD
The late 198 i believe its a water landing plane, and how in world can it get points without getting kils?
Yes, but you need to consider that you use it to buy everything ingame - instead of being many types of money for many types of things.
As far as it is used to trade between players and can get them stuff on market, i believe its a fair comparison
As much as i agree with that statement, im pretty sure that we need to remember that GJN aint IRL Currency. Its same as Golden Eagles - if you cant convert them back, its just ingame currency. Tho yes, i hardly can name a gacha where you can trade characters with different players for the premium currency, the point was that the events usually get you premium currency that otherwise is unabtainable but with donations
thats also a thing to consider. However i think that the player’s score tends to be mostly the same at all ranks he’s comfortable with. For example, i usually to 2-2.5k a game with 9.3, and at least same amount at lower ranks. However im not very comfortable with 11.0+ so its usually less there. Plus need to consider the amount of 1 death leaver’s - further rank more such people.
So thats why i say they tend to do the same - move you to play efficiently. But with different goals - older task events made you choose specific techs to complete tasks, and modern events make you choose the techs you’re most comfortable with to grind. I mean, you can grind the event with stock lineup of cacti techs, spading them throughout the event. But you’ll end up doing many matches with low point amount…
Not that there were less to buy, but that’s also a great point. Back then less people wanted to sell them. Howerer there were also less people to buy them :3
id say that chances of those to be considered minor
Huh?
Then i must be missing something
it is, but the gaijin shows the links to market in many places, so likely they’ll get around fast enough
it appears to me that bying 8k GEs for the completion of the event is much pricey than bying a 20GJN machine. Plus they might just miss the event entirely
Pretty many if you ask me!
I know personally some of them, and some of them i know from forum. And those who never attend those places are also likely to spend money that way.
What i ment is that its hard to obtain a coupon, so there are less machines from new events on sale. But they sell pretty badly anyway.
It’s an event vehicle. Spawning it in means that all the score earned in that match counts towards the score needed for the event tasks
Ah thats what you ment! i do the same when i play rank 2, spawn the event machine or rank 3 machine at the end of the game xD
Yeah I used to do that with the Pbil 40 but then they moved it to 2.0 where it does not perform well. Now I just do it with the 1.3 french tanks
