Br placement A-5C

yeah but there is no similar jet, the most similar jet is the q5 at 9.3 which just doesnt get missiles, magic 1s just arent enough to justify a 1.3 br increase when most stuff you see can just ignore the reason for this 1.3 br increase by pressing 1 button once

in terms of flight characteristics

because the r60 is rear aspect only?

R60 is the same way? But far more susceptible because its slower?

its why you are not at a lower BR partially

??? not even what im talking about, 21smt does have flares

In a more decompressed game, sure! This game is not decompressed, and exactly what I am saying here is that under the current rules of compression the A-5C would be 10.3 if not for the fact it bombs bases.

you cannot make any argument that would make sense regarding this seeing flareless jets

And if you downtier it then most of what it can see doesn’t have that magic button, and has zero defence against a 30G magic. I’d rather one plane has a harder time than ruin an entire battle rating.

Not a good reason to downtier it. Your argument is “the BRs are already compressed so lets compress it more to make my vehicle more fun to play”. No.

While I have been trying to spade my Jaguar I have been getting paired with a lot of A-5Cs they will have fire bombs equipped and will out race most aircraft that take heavier loads because they don’t have firebombs. This leaves them with achiveing multiple base kills with little competition.

Not true at all rofl you can actually outrun a F-5C ( or catch up to ) at any altitude and have waaaay better missiles than it with flares and chaff… No you cant 1 circle an aircraft literally designed for that purpose nor should you expect to… But you still have ways to fight him and defend againts him BnZ isnt glamouris dogfight but it is more efficient than rate fighting

I think it’s completely out of place and the one aircraft I understand BR placement the least:

  • No SAS (which is pretty much standard at that BR)
  • Terrible to trim
  • No CCRP (which is pretty much standard at that BR)
  • No TGP (which is not standard, but quite common at that BR)
  • No HUD (which is not standard, but quite common at that BR)
  • No all aspect IR-AAM’s (which is pretty much standard for attackers at that BR)
  • No guided Air/Ground weapons (which is pretty much standard for attackers at that BR)

Usually attackers get better AAM’s earlier than fighters, but in this case the Magic 1 gets introduced already 2 BR steps earlier on a dedicated fighter (French Crusader).

I see not a single aspect where the A-5C is par to - let alone better - than any other 10.7 attacker.

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It can carry 4 fire bombs allowing it to race to the bases quicker than other attackers at the br allowing for it to grab high amounts of RP. That high RP amd SL gain from a signal takeoff will drag it’s BR to where it is.

It is a mig19 modification. That means it is still a very capable dogfighter, with incredible acceleration and amazing energy retention for 10.7, only the J7E can dominate it in a dogfight, not any other jet from 10.0-11.7 can match it.

It has magic 1’s which are one of the best non IRCCM missiles.

It has a very light napalm bomb loadout capable of killing 2 bases.

Did you ever play with a5c? His dogfighter capacity doesn’t even come close to what mig19 is capable of doing

I have an AirRB 9 kill streak with the A-5C, so yes I played with it.

Mig19 is a bit better since its lighter, but it also is 9.3, and the A-5C could just not engage with it and just send a missile when the opportunity arises to a flareless mig19.

The meteor mk3 would crush the gripen in a dogfight, doest not mean the meteor mk3 deserves to go up in BR

At it’s BR i have seen 1 fire bomb per base destory each base.

Each napalm does about 52% damage to a base so you always need 2

I am fairly certain I saw a A-5C killing 4 bases with his run. Maybe I missed a second A-5 following him up with a second bomb I will have to recheck. Shouldn’t be too hard for me to find I gave up grinding the Jaguar cause of A-5Cs killing all the bases.

At most, it can kill 2 and slightly damage a third one with rockets.

It oppresses planes in downtiers pretty heavily.

Could you post the server replay?

When I get home. It’s rare for me to be here and at my computer.