because the r60 is rear aspect only?
R60 is the same way? But far more susceptible because its slower?
its why you are not at a lower BR partially
??? not even what im talking about, 21smt does have flares
In a more decompressed game, sure! This game is not decompressed, and exactly what I am saying here is that under the current rules of compression the A-5C would be 10.3 if not for the fact it bombs bases.
you cannot make any argument that would make sense regarding this seeing flareless jets
And if you downtier it then most of what it can see doesn’t have that magic button, and has zero defence against a 30G magic. I’d rather one plane has a harder time than ruin an entire battle rating.
Not a good reason to downtier it. Your argument is “the BRs are already compressed so lets compress it more to make my vehicle more fun to play”. No.
While I have been trying to spade my Jaguar I have been getting paired with a lot of A-5Cs they will have fire bombs equipped and will out race most aircraft that take heavier loads because they don’t have firebombs. This leaves them with achiveing multiple base kills with little competition.
Not true at all rofl you can actually outrun a F-5C ( or catch up to ) at any altitude and have waaaay better missiles than it with flares and chaff… No you cant 1 circle an aircraft literally designed for that purpose nor should you expect to… But you still have ways to fight him and defend againts him BnZ isnt glamouris dogfight but it is more efficient than rate fighting
I think it’s completely out of place and the one aircraft I understand BR placement the least:
- No SAS (which is pretty much standard at that BR)
- Terrible to trim
- No CCRP (which is pretty much standard at that BR)
- No TGP (which is not standard, but quite common at that BR)
- No HUD (which is not standard, but quite common at that BR)
- No all aspect IR-AAM’s (which is pretty much standard for attackers at that BR)
- No guided Air/Ground weapons (which is pretty much standard for attackers at that BR)
Usually attackers get better AAM’s earlier than fighters, but in this case the Magic 1 gets introduced already 2 BR steps earlier on a dedicated fighter (French Crusader).
I see not a single aspect where the A-5C is par to - let alone better - than any other 10.7 attacker.
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It can carry 4 fire bombs allowing it to race to the bases quicker than other attackers at the br allowing for it to grab high amounts of RP. That high RP amd SL gain from a signal takeoff will drag it’s BR to where it is.
It is a mig19 modification. That means it is still a very capable dogfighter, with incredible acceleration and amazing energy retention for 10.7, only the J7E can dominate it in a dogfight, not any other jet from 10.0-11.7 can match it.
It has magic 1’s which are one of the best non IRCCM missiles.
It has a very light napalm bomb loadout capable of killing 2 bases.
Did you ever play with a5c? His dogfighter capacity doesn’t even come close to what mig19 is capable of doing
I have an AirRB 9 kill streak with the A-5C, so yes I played with it.
Mig19 is a bit better since its lighter, but it also is 9.3, and the A-5C could just not engage with it and just send a missile when the opportunity arises to a flareless mig19.
The meteor mk3 would crush the gripen in a dogfight, doest not mean the meteor mk3 deserves to go up in BR
At it’s BR i have seen 1 fire bomb per base destory each base.
Each napalm does about 52% damage to a base so you always need 2
I am fairly certain I saw a A-5C killing 4 bases with his run. Maybe I missed a second A-5 following him up with a second bomb I will have to recheck. Shouldn’t be too hard for me to find I gave up grinding the Jaguar cause of A-5Cs killing all the bases.
At most, it can kill 2 and slightly damage a third one with rockets.
It oppresses planes in downtiers pretty heavily.
Could you post the server replay?
When I get home. It’s rare for me to be here and at my computer.
Looks like no. Didn’t think it would be that hard to find but apparently the earliest ARB matches I can pull on the server replays is Feb. 7th and I know it was earlier than that. Went through them just to be sure. It would be nice if I could filter the client side replays especially by jet cause starting up sifting through replays from that list is pulling teeth.
I was about to reply to another topic about the same thing but it was locked…
Anyway,
A-5C will do fine at 10.7, but could be 10.3 without much of an issue tbh. It does get overshadowed a lot because of constant uptiers, but that’s not a A-5C exclusive problem.
The A-5C in the right hands is a menace. It’s essentially slightly heavier mig19 with flares and 2 magics. It will outrate most of everything it faces, and has a very strong acceleration.
The most common skill issues with it are bringing too much fuel, and dropping the throttle too much.
This jet sips fuel, and there’s not much point in going full afterburner near transonic speeds since it wont get you much faster. 15 to 18min of fuel will be plenty.
The engines take a LOOOONG time to spool up, if you cut your throttle to 0% it will take a long time to build the full thrust again. I don’t recommend cutting the throttle below 80%. If you need to control your speed just cut afterburner and deploy airbrakes.
Since it is essentially a mig19, you will compress a lot near mach, and if you have too much fuel on you, the jet will be very stiff at high speeds with low nose authority.
You should be around 10min of fuel or less before committing to the harder dogfights, and when you do, you should be patient and lag pursuit for a bit before committing to the kill. High deflection shoots at high speeds is not its strong suit, unlike the F-5s for example, but you have the best energy retention around, except when fighting J-7Es in a uptier or actual mig-19s in a downtier.