what do you think these more advanced tanks should face in downtiers?
They should face less advanced cold war vehicles like the Ratel 90 or FV4005 that already have low BRs.
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In my case, the most annoying opponent I faced was…
T-54, I think… Not sure which year.
While playing a Tiger 2 H.
Granted, I used the standard AP shell, and could have used the APCR, possibly…
But in either case, it is really annoying to try to fight it at ~700 m distance and have no way to penetrate it from the front, while it can penetrate the front turret with virtually no issues.
A medium tank. Well, an MBT, if You will.
Beating a heavy tank. From the front.
IS-6 was also annoying, it shrugs shells like it was nothing, while blasting the Tiger 2 into the turret from the front, with a single shot.
Similar with IS-4…
Meanwhile…
These are glass canons at least, I can handle them.
Same here, I think.
Glass canons.
I think M60 more or less can be handled. Armor at least isn’t as obnoxious as the Soviets’.
is 6 can be passed right from the barrel into the coaxial machine gun port it passes you into the turret anywhere and your lfp
T54 t54 47 can be written in the mantelet but for the 49 and 51 it can only be entered in cupola t54 47 can be written in the mantelet but for the 49 and 51 it can only be entered in the dome
in return it can write your turret easily and your bottom also it has access to better optics than the is 6 and in addition the version 51 has apds and heat fs able to cross you anywhere
m48 is a dangerous tank for you because the turret armor is relatively good it can be written next to the gun or in the dome the difference with the m60 is that it has lfp vulnerable
m48 is a dangerous tank for you because the turret armor is relatively good it can be written next to the gun or in the dome the difference with the m60 is that it has lfp vulnerable and a 90mm gun compared to the 105 mm of the M60
Not really feasible hunting for pixels in a long range (500 m +) engagement.
Tiger’s strength was the long range. At least in the past.
at any distance this tank is surpassed
In that case, it’s BR reduction should be up for consideration.
And would You look at that - it seems some of the competition will be met even more rarely on the battle:
I suppose I should be thankful.
I have always thought and I believe even more that the spread br should be lowered +/- 1.0 to +/- 0.7 you’ll fix a lot of problems with it
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What vehicle’s BR?
Good changes, but when will the chieftain mk3 and mk5 receive L23? all mbt’s in that br range have a dart that at the very least, performs as well as their apds or is notably stronger, while being more mobile, the only strength on the chieftains is their hulldown potential which is now pretty much non besides the MK10 due to it having steelbrew, at this point is hilarious go karts in the same br range have access to 105 dm23 while the chieftains can only cope with a nerfed 120mm apds
With the Swedish tech tree, there already is a big BR gap with SPAA forcing the player into higher BR games. Are there going to be new additions coming to bridge these gaps or are these 4 tanks in 7.3-7.7 going to be like how the Bkan 1C(RB6.7) and Charioteer Mk V(RB6.3) are the only 6.0 tanks in the Swedish tech tree?
Tiger 2H is very well placed at 6.7. It will not move.
Tiger 2 facing cold war tanks is bad but I dont mind downtiers thread #2894152694
I have seen that they are also going to raise the BR to the C13 T90 and the AUBL 74, but are they going to give them a reasonable precision? They seem like horrible vehicles to me, any shot at more than 200 meters is a bad precision lottery and how do they use HEAT -FS that you need to aim at exact points means that they are not worth much, unless they fix that precision error, since it cannot be that, for example, the KV2 has much better precision than those tanks.
Gaijin has done a great work. I hope they’ll continue with BR decompression.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mbhW8TfUMYecAKm19
It’s a little nerf, but the apds perform differently than Solid core (here difference with L28A1, M728 and L15A3 vs T-55AM-1) :
M728 and L15A3 are similar performance, able to pass the upper front armor of the T-55AM-1 more than 1000meters, L28A1 cannot (with more armor perforation on ‘the stats card’).
Other example, 120mm L1G shot vs L15A3 shot on T-55AMD, 1000 meters (same armor):
Conclusion : Yes, the Chieftains Mk.III and Mk.V lost some armor penetration on its L15A3 on 90 degre, but The shell still performs well in removing sloped armor and against most vehicles it encounters.
The issue of the APDS is curious, for example they made the change of the APDS models separating them into first generation and second generation models, an example of the first generation would be the APDS of the conqueror and the centurion of 83mm gun, which were made of tungsten pure, on the other hand, the second generation ones would be made of tungsten alloy, with which they have different features. Pure tungsten bullets penetrate a lot at 0º, instead of 60º, the penetration is quite low, apart from being made of pure tungsten, they tend to break on impact, So if they hit spaced armor thick enough to break them, because they do not penetrate the inner layer, instead the second generation ones do not break on impact and continue on their way until they lose all kinetic energy. The issue here is three things The first is that in the game it is okay for 1st generation APDS to break into separate armors, the second is that as it breaks easier the 1st generation APDS should do more damage than 2nd generation PADS or even APHEs They already fragment into many pieces of tungsten at high speed and temperature, and third is that the chieftain’s APDS is second generation, so it is normal for it to easily pierce a T-55AM-1 with its external composite armor and a conqueror not. Apart from the fact that in reality it would be impossible to compare them:
Conqueror - 1955
T-55AM-1 - 1983
it’s not my point, at that BR and higher every tank has a dart or more amunition options to compensate for the lack of penetration in their dart, russian tanks don’t even need the slopped performance since most nato tanks at that BR gap are paper thin, and still get atgm’s and decent grade heat to somewhat compensate for it, or at that if you go to the vehicles that used to be 8.7, all have a dart that is notably better than L15A3, and that’s ignoring that in uptiers it will now face tanks like the T-64BV, meanwhile russian tanks got a reload rate buff for their BR increase, the chieftain mk3 remains completely untouched in any regard, at this point and it now being 8.7, it should be getting L23, for it’s new br bracket it will need it for uptiers, along giving it to the MK5, the addition of the dart is the only reason of why the only chieftain i bother playing is the mk10, since the other 2 face the higher tier russian or nato tanks with a mediocre APDS core round.
It’s not a bad round, it simply should be getting a better one.